Looking to get back into listening to some good quality debates and discussions again. I personally enjoyed listening to atheists such as Sam Harris and the late Christopher Hitchens argue far more than others such as Dawkins or Krauss. Thoughts?
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Who is/was the Best Atheist Spokesman?
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March 29, 2018 at 9:57 am
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2018 at 9:58 am by FatAndFaithless.)
I wouldn't really call him an "atheist spokesperson" since the terminology was so confused back when he was still alive and speaking (more so than it is now), Carl Sagan was a fantastic source of pro-skepticism, pro-science, anti-bullshit critical thinking. He claimed to be an agnostic, and showed that religion and god were utterly unnecessary to investigate, learn about, and explain our reality. He of course didn't have the sort blistering literary incisions that someone like Hitchens did, but as far as a 'face' for a non-religious, pro-science worldview, Sagan was one of the best.
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March 29, 2018 at 10:08 am
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(March 29, 2018 at 9:51 am)stretch3172 Wrote: Looking to get back into listening to some good quality debates and discussions again. I personally enjoyed listening to atheists such as Sam Harris and the late Christopher Hitchens argue far more than others such as Dawkins or Krauss. Thoughts? "Spokesman" is a stupid word. We are not collectively a business, we are not collectively a lobby, we are not collectively a political party, we are not collectively a religion, we are not collectively a economic view. We are diverse in our views so if you want to know what an atheist thinks on a specific topic, you have to ask that individual atheist. A better word might be "personality". I like Dawkins for his work, but personally I think he is too much of a stuffed shirt. I like Christopher Hitchens, but he was a bit of a warhawk. I like Sam Harris, but I get a severe lip twitch when he starts peddling Buddhism. I like Neil Degrasse Tyson too. Ayaan Hersi Ali is one tough lady, but I really don't know anything about her economic views. I like stage illusionist Penn, of Penn and Teller, but I hate his libertarian economic views. The only thing atheists have in common is "off" on God/god/s/deity/super natural claims. Outside that we are just as diverse in our educations, classes and nationalities and former religions. 
Out of the "four horsemen", I think Hitchens was by far the best debater.
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No one. I'd call the people you're thinking of "prominent atheists". I'd go with Hitchins.
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RE: Who is/was the Best Atheist Spokesman?
March 29, 2018 at 1:04 pm
(This post was last modified: March 29, 2018 at 1:05 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
To save the trouble of a long list...the religious are the best spokesmen for atheism. They've done the most important works, and turned the most people away from god. Hell must be bursting at the seams with believers by now.
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 (March 29, 2018 at 1:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: To save the trouble of a long list...the religious are the best spokesmen for atheism. They've done the most important works, and turned the most people away from god. Hell must be bursting at the seams with believers by now. What's funny and sad at the same time, is that you are right. |
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