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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:32 pm
Stop, Mystic, this is idiotic.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:32 pm
(April 2, 2018 at 4:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So it works one way. I have to answer questions, define and redefine, but if I ask you questions with your paradigm, you just simply assert it works and is consistent.
I been certain of God for a long enough time now. What was different in the past I thought Atheists were just lacking insight others had. But now I see it's actually hate of God for a lot, trying to escape his judgment and fearing the trials of assessing the path of submission, not willing to strive in his way.
I believed in the Deist past days, perhaps, it was just lack of comprehension, lack of sight, but now I see it's nothing but utter hate to best being and ungratefulness.
Every time we tip to close to proofs reaching the conclusion, everyone is just trying to redirect the conversation and not see the implications.
You asked me to explain empathy to you after:
1. I already did.
2. You told me you knew what it was.
...? Lol.
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:32 pm
Do you possess empathy, mystic? Do you know what anyone is talking about when they talk about empathy?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:35 pm
(April 2, 2018 at 4:32 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Do you possess empathy, mystic? Do you know what anyone is talking about when they talk about empathy?
I'm not answering questions anymore. I'm going to present rest of God's proofs in Quran which are sound arguments, among them, the value and vision/witness arguments.
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:36 pm
(April 2, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Like the honey badger, it does what it wants, right or wrong. Don't give a fuck.
That's why my old SoundCloud is called Clockwork Honeybadger. Because my personality is a mixture between a machine and not giving a fuck 
I changed to Devil's Avocado because I like the pun and I like avocados, lol.
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:37 pm
Smooth and delicious, amiright?
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:39 pm
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(April 2, 2018 at 4:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So it works one way. I have to answer questions, define and redefine, but if I ask you questions with your paradigm, you just simply assert it works and is consistent.
We don't just assert it though. We have naturalistic views that are backed up by science. You have an old dusty book with a bunch of words in it.
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:40 pm
(April 2, 2018 at 4:39 pm)Hammy Wrote: (April 2, 2018 at 4:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So it works one way. I have to answer questions, define and redefine, but if I ask you questions with your paradigm, you just simply assert it works and is consistent.
We don't just assert it though. We have naturalistic views that are backed up by science. You have an old dusty fiction book with a bunch of words in it.
FTFY
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:41 pm
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(April 2, 2018 at 4:31 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (April 2, 2018 at 4:23 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Then why are you asking me to explain it to you? Because is your escape route right now from acknowledging God's proof. You use the word empathy, to justify your hate and contempt of God's light.
You guys are really frustrating. You won't even explain your stance in detail, because you don't want to investigate. You hide behind words. And just deny premises without thought.
Um, what? First of all, I don’t believe a god exists. I cannot hate something that I don’t believe exists. I have never been given a good reason, or any evidence to believe a god exists. That I find your argument: “morals can’t come from people” fallacious, unconvincing, and factually incorrect is your problem.
I feel empathy. Imagining hurting people makes me feel hurt for them. I don’t have any desire to hurt people. That you find this so utterly inexplicable and mysterious is a failure on your end, not mine. I don’t hate your silly god, MK. I don’t care a thing about him, or what you say he says is right and wrong, and yet I continue on with my life, generally doing more good than harm. How do you suppose you explain that?
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RE: Arguments for God in Quran.
April 2, 2018 at 4:41 pm
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(April 2, 2018 at 4:37 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Smooth and delicious, amiright?
I sure am. I'm also depraved like a devil
(April 2, 2018 at 4:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (April 2, 2018 at 4:32 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Do you possess empathy, mystic? Do you know what anyone is talking about when they talk about empathy?
I'm not answering questions anymore. I'm going to present rest of God's proofs in Quran which are sound arguments, among them, the value and vision/witness arguments.
Asserting that it is sound doesn't make it sound.........
Like I said, you can make valid arguments but that doesn't make them sound. Sound arguments require sound premises which require evidence or tautologies for support.
(April 2, 2018 at 4:40 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: (April 2, 2018 at 4:39 pm)Hammy Wrote: We don't just assert it though. We have naturalistic views that are backed up by science. You have an old dusty fiction book with a bunch of words in it.
FTFY
Fiction is a book that is supposed to be untrue bollocks that didn't happen.
If someone writes a book thinking it's a true revelation, that doesn't count.
Unless, the writers of the Quran really were just having a laugh and hoodwinking people on purpose, making up a silly story, making fun of the stupidity of people "God people will believe anything won't they?".
In either case, fictional or not fictional, it's a load of untrue bollocks.
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