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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 6:36 pm
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Some of us take the "winning" aspect of one game and apply it to the other. Humans are remarkably flexible. Hard to pin down. For all intents and purposes we're the earths premier generalists.....coincidentally, we run this rock.
I;d like nothing more than for all of the males of this world to abandon their spawn..... besides me. That's a default win condition. Stubbornly, they refuse.
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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 6:45 pm
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(April 2, 2018 at 6:29 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: *Deidre* studies use statistics. And statistics means shit when it comes to how humans ought to be, it just shows how they are in a certain society, at a certain time.
And that is one of the big flaws in Psychology.
I know, but it offers a gauge.
(April 2, 2018 at 6:36 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I;d like nothing more than for all of the males of this world to abandon their spawn..... besides me. That's a default win condition. Stubbornly, they refuse.
what? 
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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 6:52 pm
It;s really simple. If the men of the world were somehow predisposed towards shit I;m not, my children win by default. My children don't win by default..mostly because the men of the world are no more predisposed against monogamy than they are predisposed towards it. It's a fair game. I would win an unfair game. I have a natural advantage.
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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 8:10 pm
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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 8:16 pm
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Leaves me speechless too. I really wish they were unmitigated bastards. Sadly, they're not. Bunch of assholes, if you ask me. They won't give me a goddamned thing!
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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 8:22 pm
(April 2, 2018 at 8:16 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Leaves me speechless too. I really wish they were unmitigated bastards. Sadly, they're not. Bunch of assholes, if you ask me. They won't give me a goddamned thing!
Don't show them your comments.
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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 8:55 pm
Personally, I think as long as you're single you can have as much fun as you like.
Once in a relationship, you stay loyal.
If it's an open relationship and you both agree, however...
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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 10:17 pm
I don't think either long term monogamy or whatever the alternative is can be unnatural.
For some people, having a life long partner is what they desire.
For others, maybe one romantic partner and a relationship that is open to other sexual partners.
For others, maybe polyamory.
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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 10:29 pm
It's a cultural norm, and there are many benefits given for it. I'm kind of curious about how often people tend to stay together when they don't have some form of written contract between them, but ironically our society actually looks down on people living together and making love when they're not bound together legally.
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RE: Is long term monogamy unnatural for human beings?
April 2, 2018 at 10:41 pm
Not unnatural, no.
But it doesn't work for everyone. My husband and I aren't monogamous. But that's just our kind of thing. If everyone were turned on by the same things, the world would be a boring place. If my husband wanted monogamy, I could do it. We both agreed that if either of us decides that's not what we want anymore, that we'll stop. We have a very open and honest relationship. We don't lie to each other at all. It doesn't bother me when he finds other women attractive, and it doesn't bother him when I find other men (or even women) attractive. I actually like hearing about his rendezvous with other women. We have zero jealousy in our relationship, so it works. Because at the end of the day we know that we put each other first.
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