My conclusions about weak Atheism.

[Whateverist]

He needs to believe that everyone believes because it's part of his beliefs.....and if that's wrong.......

He probably just empathizes too strongly with him mega-omni fairy.

[downbeatplumb]

It's a stance that not only says it's without belief of God.

It's a stance that ultimately is neutral to what is the true nature of a human (for example, whether it's spiritual or not).

For example, weak Atheists would say they don't know if they have a real soul in the sense religious believe.

It's ok to not know. But What I don't understand, is the assumption no human can know they are soul, simply because you don't.

I can say you have no soul because that is what the evidence tells us. You may think you have a soul. But you are wrong.

It's very rational in fact to say if we are soul, it would be one of the more apparent things to realize.

My conclusion in weak Atheism, is they are trying to give intelligence and knowledge to a stance of ignorance.

But it isn't ignorance. It is looking at the evidence and making conclusions based on the actual facts and not what makes you feel better.

I don't know is fine. But to make it the staying place.  


None of us in our lives I think weren't Atheists in the weak sense. We all wondered at some point in our lives, if God truly exists or not, and were inclined one way or another, but didn't really believe one way or another.

I have never believed in a god. My wondering about god is just how can people believe the incredibly silly thing.

I know as a child, I questioned God, I even did it explicitly to my parents, where I asked questions, and I understood evolution before I even heard of it. It was a theory I understood and assumed possible, before even hearing it (I was 6 years old when I asked "why does the world have to be created, if God can exist always, why not the universe?").

But I know then there could be so many reasons that I don't know which is why I brought up to my parents who didn't have a good answer.

I even realized then, they weren't to guide me regarding this, if I were to know the truth regarding it.

6 years old. Some people never grow up though

Indeed, some people just keep believing in santa.

[Edwardo Piet]

Jesus fuck. How many more threads do you plan to make today?

647.

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Again, when does this become spam?

I really wish staff would bring back the anti-preaching rule

Surely preaching goes against the prime directive?

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all the proofs of magic exist, starting with their magical souls and their nature of magical free-will.

God...... this is so bad. I'd put this in the hall of shame but then I'd end up spamming it with 100% of your post content.

So when I made that argument for real wizards, with real magic, it was meant to both be satire and to demonstrate that it was no worse than your own argument...

But after all this, you take its conclusion fucking seriously?

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For example, weak Atheists would say they don't know if they have a real soul in the sense religious believe.

It's ok to not know. But What I don't understand, is the assumption no human can know they are soul, simply because you don't.

It's very rational in fact to say if we are soul, it would be one of the more apparent things to realize.

Wut? No form of atheism even addresses the matter of souls and atheism is perfectly compatible with believing in souls. Most of us don't, because we tend to be more rational than theists, and without belief in God there doesn't seem to be much of a point, but there's nothing incompatible about it. Atheism has nothing to do with souls. Atheism is about one issue and one issue only.

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This is exactly the stance they take. And they do it, even all the proofs of magic exist, starting with their magical souls and their nature of magical free-will.

Yes, I think far too many people don't feed their pets properly. Most cats don't get nearly enough daily protein.

Boru

You managed to address him as sensibly as he did everyone else! Good on ya my non-son!

Non-Boru

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There are plenty of real dipshits I don't submit to..why would that change for your imaginary dipshit of a god?

What are you nuts?!

Submitting to someone non-existent is MUCH better! They can't make you do shit!

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I know you don't believe, I propose you aren't' justified in it, because the truth has become apparent and you perceive it.

If we perceived it we'd know it and if we knew it we'd believe it.

So that's bullshit.

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You're not supposed to say that part out loud.  If you're gonna troll, do it with class and talent.

It's not about me. The sooner you understand your issue is with God's proofs and hence God, you will know the problem.

Proofs? You haven't proved anything and you know it. When I question your premises, and ask you to reformulate your argument, you run for the hills. Yesterday proved that. You're a coward.

[Succubus]

This is exactly the stance they take. And they do it, even all the proofs of magic exist, starting with their magical souls and their nature of magical free-will.

Yes, I think far too many people don't feed their pets properly. Most cats don't get nearly enough daily protein.

Boru

I decided to train my cats not to eat and just when I had them all trained up the fucking things all died.

[Edwardo Piet]

Yes, I think far too many people don't feed their pets properly. Most cats don't get nearly enough daily protein.

Boru

I decided to train my cats not to eat and just when I had them all trained up the fucking things all died.

I wish I had a pussy. I'd pet it every day.

[Crossless2.0]

I decided to train my cats not to eat and just when I had them all trained up the fucking things all died.

I wish I had a pussy. I'd pet it every day.

They don't all like getting wet.

[Edwardo Piet]

I wish I had a pussy. I'd pet it every day.

They don't all like getting wet.

Mine would.

This is so much better than addressing the worthless topic.

[Amarok]

It's a stance that not only says it's without belief of God.

Nope 

It's a stance that ultimately is neutral to what is the true nature of a human (for example, whether it's spiritual or not).

Nope

For example, weak Atheists would say they don't know if they have a real soul in the sense religious believe.

Yup

It's ok to not know. But What I don't understand, is the assumption no human can know they are soul, simply because you don't.

WTF

It's very rational in fact to say if we are soul, it would be one of the more apparent things to realize.

Not really no

My conclusion in weak Atheism, is they are trying to give intelligence and knowledge to a stance of ignorance.

Then it's a bad conclusion 

I don't know is fine. But to make it the staying place.  

Till you have a reason think otherwise it is rational

None of us in our lives I think weren't Atheists in the weak sense. We all wondered at some point in our lives, if God truly exists or not, and were inclined one way or another, but didn't really believe one way or another.

That's too simple

I know as a child, I questioned God, I even did it explicitly to my parents, where I asked questions, and I understood evolution before I even heard of it. It was a theory I understood and assumed possible, before even hearing it (I was 6 years old when I asked "why does the world have to be created, if God can exist always, why not the universe?").

And then you apparently went nuts 

But I know then there could be so many reasons that I don't know which is why I brought up to my parents who didn't have a good answer.

Uh huh 

I even realized then, they weren't to guide me regarding this, if I were to know the truth regarding it.

Your wandering into crazy land 

6 years old. Some people never grow up though 

Yes you clearly never grew up 

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No rather I see how you guys react and try to avoid the truth. And it's convenient how you guys just label it all babble after the discussion is over.

Or there is the more obvious fact that it is babble even during the supposed discussion (you ranting us correcting your ranting at least bits that make any kind of sense) and the fact you have no truth for us to avoid

 

You choose ignorance instead of the leap of faith necessary which is just holding to the truth with the heart and embracing it with full submission over irrational doubt and it's loud unclean whispers.

Yeah I'm the irrational one for not blindly leaping to belief in magic for no reason. 

[Mister Agenda]

If MK has backed off from claiming that we all secretly believe and know he's right and his arguments are all sound, that would be a lot less cray. I hope he can hold that thought.

[The Grand Nudger]

It's part of the twelver confirmation complex.  He won't stop believing that unless he loses his faith.