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Gene drives are we playing god?
#11
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
. . . we are on the actual brink of the biggest mass extinction event earth has ever experienced. Not sure I'd be worried about mosquitos right now.
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#12
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
I'll be waiting to see what bug ends up taking up the gap in the "getting eaten" category. Lots of animals above the little buggers, in the food chain.
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#13
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
(April 3, 2018 at 1:27 pm)Coveny Wrote:
(April 3, 2018 at 1:20 pm)Chad32 Wrote: We've been playing god ever since we started using electricity to power our homes, if not even earlier than that. I don't see anything unethical about it, as long as we aren't murdering people or stealing parts from them.

Of course part of this is stem cell research, and some people think killing a zygote/fetus should count as murder, but that's a debate I don't feel like getting into.

It's about using genetic engineering to killing off an entire species of animals (in this case mosquitoes), don't you think that's a bit different than using a tool like electricity?

I can't get too worked up over mosquitoes.
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#14
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
Uhhm! Some things need killin!
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#15
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
IIRC (from the last time this issue was brought up) there's no shortage of other bugs to fill whatever gap would be left..including other skeeters..since the idea is to target the species of skeeters that present a public health risk.
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#16
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
Mosquitoes are pollinators, so killing them off are sure to have unforeseen consequences.
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#17
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
(April 3, 2018 at 8:55 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Uhhm! Some things need killin!

That's what I said to the cops!

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#18
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
I don't know. My hesitation isn't so much ethical as intellectual. I don't think humans, as intelligent as we are, always see the far-reaching effects of an act until it's too late. Sure, mosquitoes seem useless and are certainly dangerous, but are we sure there won't be unforeseen consequences? Is it worth the risk?

(April 3, 2018 at 10:49 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Mosquitoes are pollinators, so killing them off are sure to have unforeseen consequences.

Are they?
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#19
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
They are, not in any sense useful to humans..but, you know.
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#20
RE: Gene drives are we playing god?
Interesting. Still, pollinators are pollinators, and I bet a lot shit eats mosquitoes. It's hard to tell what the result would be. We're known for our limited thinking.
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