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Fuck This Xtian Nation Shit
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 (April 9, 2018 at 11:14 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Min, where you get strength to be so active in your aggression? Aren't you harmfully exhausted from such constant anger outbursts? Do NOT presume to question AF's Official Curmudgeon. All internet fora need at least one cranky old stoat. Min is ours, and we love him for it. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Yeah Christianity never supported democracy in the past. For instance, the Catholic Church defended monarchy with a blind determination, as if it was the only political system which could be reconciled with the Gospels. And since we are constantly reminded by Christians on this forum how all Christian Denominations are the same we can say that Christianity is against the republic, democracy, and human rights.
From the very beginning of democratic revolutions Popes were against them. Like in the breve Quod aliquantum of March 1791 Pius VI condemned the idea that one cannot be discriminated because of his or her religion, and that anyone could think, say, and write what he or she wanted on the subject. The Pope wrote: “In the eyes of the Assembly, this monstrous law is based in the freedom and equality natural to the human being, yet can there be something more incomprehensible than setting such a licentious freedom and equality? This freedom […] which the National Assembly grants humans as an inalienable inborn right is incompatible with the law set by God the Creator. After all, as St. Augustine said, human society is nothing more than only a general contract to listen to kings whose power stems not from a social contract but from God.” The view that democracy and human rights are incompatible with the principles of the Gospels was proclaimed unremittingly by all popes until the middle of the 20th century. Take 1864 encyclical Quanta cura by Pius IX where he is censuring rationalism, freedom of the press, equality of religions before the law and freedom of conscience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quanta_cura Or during XX. century when they supported dictatorships like Franco's, Mussolini, Hitler.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 (April 9, 2018 at 9:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: This should be stickied and shoved up the ass of every asshole who shows up here spouting this bullshit. Minn, while our theocratic right is more prone to make attempts at using religion to write public policy, my friend and his wife are BOTH liberal Christians, he is far more willing to listen to me, but she on the other hand has herself pulled the "we are the majority" and "God is on our money" garbage. Sure, she may be more tolerant I see the same fear of being wrong in her that when I bring any questioning up, she will suddenly say she doesn't want to talk about it. Liberals are far more likely to be accepting and protective of others, but I can tell you even with some liberals, as soon as you question them about their logic, even they can become defensive. But this goes with every religion. Every umbrella label has sub sects that view the label and holy writing differently. The danger in assuming only the right does this, is that it allows the left to give them cover when the left says, "Never blaspheme religion." Point is, the theist fear of being wrong is not solely held by the conservative right. 
I merrily blaspheme all religions.
Stupid fuckers. 
with Mormonism being especially blasphemable . . . .
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
 (April 10, 2018 at 12:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I merrily blaspheme all religions. I blaspheme all but the Holy Spirit. All hail vodka. Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"  (April 9, 2018 at 10:51 pm)Fireball Wrote: Indeed. The whole point behind separation of church and state was because of the vast numbers of people leaving Europe due to religious persecution, and then persecuting the other sects who immigrated. It's just like Fundies, though. They'll inculcate that xtian nation tripe into their adherents ad infinitum. The Pilgrims emigrated because England wasn't fundamentalist enough.
And when they got here they were every bit as big of bunch of scumbags as the people the were fleeing.
The one thing religion has never endorsed is freedom. (April 10, 2018 at 3:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And when they got here they were every bit as big of bunch of scumbags as the people the were fleeing. That's not true. Religions - all of them - LOVE freedom. They love it so much, they want to keep it all for themselves. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
As long as you don't think anything that the herd doesn't like, I suppose.
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