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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 12, 2018 at 3:36 am
(April 11, 2018 at 11:53 pm)Tiberius Wrote: A guy on Facebook was complaining that European tax rates were 60% and “imagine having an extra 30% taken from each paycheck”. Had to explain to him that that’s not how taxes work. Marginal tax rates and effective tax rates are completely different.
You might further explain that increasing taxes in a democratic society almost always results in increased benefits to the tax payers. By way of example, the highest tax rate here is 33% (effectively a smidge over 20%) and out-of-pocket medical cost for accidental injury is...nothing.
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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 12, 2018 at 5:46 pm
Europeans have nothing to worry about, it seems.
http://www.newsweek.com/republican-tax-p...cbo-884129
Quote:Trump Tax Plan: 80 Percent of Economic Gains Will End Up Going to Foreigners, CBO Says
"Murrica First," huh?
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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 12, 2018 at 9:04 pm
Quote:I'm not Min, obviously, but I still want to answer. I actually do support a sweeping decrease in corporate taxes across the board, but only when the American people get the benefits they deserve. Are you opposed to a welfare state that is in line with the rest of the world?
That's not going to happen as long as rich fucks determine who gets elected. Money is the problem.
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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 13, 2018 at 7:36 am
(April 11, 2018 at 7:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ![[Image: in-the-1950s-1960s-when-the-top-tax-rate-20870672.png]](https://pics.me.me/in-the-1950s-1960s-when-the-top-tax-rate-20870672.png)
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^This. If dems ran on this I might vote for them. But, all they'll do is raise things a couple percent.
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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 13, 2018 at 8:08 am
The problem with the dems is that they don't raise taxes enough?
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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 13, 2018 at 9:27 am
(April 13, 2018 at 8:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: The problem with the dems is that they don't raise taxes enough?
That's one problem. They encourage people to hate on the 1%, yet when they're in power they don't tax the hell out of the 1%, or 5%, or wherever you want the cutoff.
With small businesses, lower taxes actually does good for employment and the economy in general. But when you get to a certain income/wealth point, earning is a game, and higher taxes won't significantly dissuade them from earning.
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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 13, 2018 at 10:43 am
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I'm pretty sure they -try- to..there's just this little thing called the screaming howler monkey nee republican now-rebranded-as-trump party..kindof obstructing taxes by the pussy.
Turns out, the problem, the whole time, was that they weren't able to overcome your own parties opposition? IDK Alpha..kindof seems like blatant political trolling to me. Though, I;m sympathetic...that;s always been my gripe with the dems. Losing a fistfight to a bunch of simpletons.
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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 13, 2018 at 11:02 am
Have they ever controlled house, senate, and WH? Yes.
So, no, they're not trying. They're paying lip service to it. They don't want to hurt themselves or their big donors.
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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 13, 2018 at 11:05 am
Like I said, I have alot of sympathy....I've long written off our representatives as two brands both wholly owned by Donor Class Inc.
Though I'm not sure why a person would vote republican...if that was an issue for them.
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RE: The Tax Bill: Pro-Life? Pro-Family?? Bullshit
April 13, 2018 at 3:15 pm
Quote:That's one problem. They encourage people to hate on the 1%, yet when they're in power they don't tax the hell out of the 1%, or 5%, or wherever you want the cutoff.
You seem to ( willfully?) forget that Citizens United was a 2010 decision by a 5-4 vote of the conservatards on the SC. I suppose you also (willfully?) forgot that the Dems lost control of the congress in the 2010 mid-terms. Your history seems malleable. In any case, they have not had control since the decision to let corporate scumbags spend whatever they want to spread lies.
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