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Wikileaks and the USA diplomatic cables
#51
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#52
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Just because something is labeled *classified* by an organisation internally does not by default mean that it cannot be distributed by independent parties outside of the jurisdiction of the organisation in question.
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#53
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(December 8, 2010 at 9:33 pm)theVOID Wrote: Just because something is labeled *classified* by an organisation internally does not by default mean that it cannot be distributed by independent parties outside of the jurisdiction of the organisation in question.

Are you to be the one to determine the validity of the classification? LOL!!!
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#54
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Are you going to be the one who actually contributes to a discussion?
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#55
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Would you like to point out where I claimed to be the Arbiter of classification? I'll think you'll find I said nothing like that.

Classified is not a legal term in any absolute sense, it is an assignment within an organisation (state or independent) pertaining to access rights, part of the internal security policy if you like. There can be punishment for breach of the security policy within the organisation but from outside these policies simply do not apply.

For a computer analogy, it would be like me expecting your Hard Disk to follow my Chmod/NTFS permissions after you obtain some content that was created on my computer - That suggestion is plainly absurd but the analogy is sound.

Julian would have been charged with "Breaching US Govt security Policies" just like Sgt Manning if that was the case, but since he has not and cannot be charged internally it makes my point perfectly clear.

For the record, I am not a "Wikileaks supporter", I do to an extent think that their publications of these documents was a good thing but I fear the consequences of some of their actions, only time will tell if the negative will outweigh the positive and my opinion will be more solid at that point in time.
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#56
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(December 9, 2010 at 12:36 am)theVOID Wrote: Would you like to point out where I claimed to be the Arbiter of classification? I'll think you'll find I said nothing like that.

Classified is not a legal term in any absolute sense, it is an assignment within an organisation (state or independent) pertaining to access rights, part of the internal security policy if you like. There can be punishment for breach of the security policy within the organisation but from outside these policies simply do not apply.

For a computer analogy, it would be like me expecting your Hard Disk to follow my Chmod/NTFS permissions after you obtain some content that was created on my computer - That suggestion is plainly absurd but the analogy is sound.

Julian would have been charged with "Breaching US Govt security Policies" just like Sgt Manning if that was the case, but since he has not and cannot be charged internally it makes my point perfectly clear.

For the record, I am not a "Wikileaks supporter", I do to an extent think that their publications of these documents was a good thing but I fear the consequences of some of their actions, only time will tell if the negative will outweigh the positive and my opinion will be more solid at that point in time.

It was a question, one that went way over your head.
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#57
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#58
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Mishka Wrote:It was a question, one that went way over your head.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but you are far less sophisticated than you think.

I answered your question did I not? Either show me where I am wrong in my use of "classification" or admit you were wrong, it's really that simple.
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#59
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"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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Leo van Miert
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