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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 2:15 am
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(May 3, 2018 at 1:53 am)Wololo Wrote: (May 2, 2018 at 7:52 am)Hammy Wrote: LMAO you have been demonstrated that 2% of scientists think creationism is true so your response is cherry-pick out a book with testimonies from some of the 2%.... bahahahahahaha. It's so typical of a theist to cherry-pick so pathetically, lmfao. It's the same way you kid yourself into believing that you can make sense of scripture that makes no sense.
For every 50 scientists who deny evolution there are 2450 who accept evolution. You understand what 2% means, yes?
What's worse for the creatards is that of those 50 scientists 50 will work in areas unrelated to biology or are woefully behind in their literature (ie they stopped sciencing in the 50s). Same thing goes with climate change deniers (except they also get bungs from major polluters).
The thing is someone can be a scientist and still go on saying that Harry Potter or ancient aliens are real or Creationism is real. Maybe their motifs are to make some extra money, because there is a market for that or maybe they really believe it (maybe they're suffering from psychological disorder) who knows. But of course when they do their scientific work they have to leave their magical beliefs outside of lab or office.
What's important is what they are saying. If they are saying nonsense then they're not right, no matter what their education is and this book that alphamale mentioned is just that. It's using false arguments that anyone can research on their own and find out they're lies, unless they're already educated to know better, but since there are people that won't research and want to believe - these kind of books exist.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 2:21 am
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(May 2, 2018 at 2:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The bible proves exactly why evolution is impossible.
Have a good day.
How does a book written by a committee of bronze age goat fuckers show that evolution isn't real?
(May 2, 2018 at 3:13 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (May 2, 2018 at 3:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Evolution was more plausible design argument wise in the past so why didn't most societies believe in it? Because philosophically it's impossible, but, now it's not even plausible knowing the confinements they have to work with design wise, I know it's impossible scientifically design wise aside from why it's impossible philosophically. The Bible proves why it's philosophically impossible. While now with science, we can even know it being design wise impossible.
Not address to you, MK. But I ask the rest of you, is this the kind of noise we could shut out in a civil/pink sub-forum. If so, where do I sign?
I would guess that like most such spaces its going to be those who argue against that kind of noise get shut out for being uncivil. I saw it a few years ago on a general forum which had both christian and atheist areas. The christian area had rules big on civility and "respectful debate" yet the most common reason for bans from that area was "you disagree with christian theology". On the other hand the only barriers in the atheist area were bad language, lies, ad homs and plagarisms. Debate was a lot more open, honest and respectful.
My best guess is what CL wants is a similar safe space for religionistas here where their delusions cannot be challenged.
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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 3:52 am
(May 2, 2018 at 3:21 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: And all it takes is to provide one system to be irreducibly complex, and the theory comes crashing down.
Provide one, then.
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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 4:02 am
(May 3, 2018 at 3:52 am)Wololo Wrote: (May 2, 2018 at 3:21 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: And all it takes is to provide one system to be irreducibly complex, and the theory comes crashing down.
Provide one, then.
Oh no you have to debate him apparently 
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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 4:02 am
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MK obviously doesn't understand evolution to think there's proof against evolution hiding somewhere undiscovered.
It's not a theory MK, any more than gravity is a theory. 
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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 4:05 am
(May 3, 2018 at 4:02 am)ignoramus Wrote: MK obviously doesn't understand evolution to think there's proof against evolution hiding somewhere undiscovered.
It's not a theory MK, any more than gravity is a theory.
Isn't that were every crack opt thinks their proof is ?
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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 5:04 am
(May 2, 2018 at 2:22 pm)alpha male Wrote: https://phys.org/news/2005-09-poll-docto...heory.html
Quote:A national survey of 1,472 physicians indicates more than half -- 63 percent -- believe the theory of evolution over that of intelligent design.
A third of doctors need some re-education...
This would be American doctors I assume. In the developed world the number of creationist Doctors would be much smaller. I used to work in a hospital and knew many many doctors.
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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 6:03 am
Quote:A third of doctors need some re-education...
No not re-education . Just education .
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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 6:25 am
Yeah, I just wonder what this doctor believes
![[Image: yc1YQ6tM_o.jpg]](https://images2.imgbox.com/c3/4f/yc1YQ6tM_o.jpg)
Or that doctor that was on Bill Maher show claiming he found cure for AIDS in goat milk in Mexico.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Creationism and Ignorance
May 3, 2018 at 7:13 am
(May 3, 2018 at 3:52 am)Wololo Wrote: (May 2, 2018 at 3:21 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: And all it takes is to provide one system to be irreducibly complex, and the theory comes crashing down.
Provide one, then.
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