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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 24, 2018 at 1:21 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(May 24, 2018 at 12:36 pm)Khemikal Wrote: There's an easy way to remember the difference.  Christianity is a religion.  Each sect of christianity is a cult.  The same is true of other faiths.  Take egyptian religion (since it;s been in thread).  Theres the total body of that faith..and then the cult of set, the cult of isis, etc.

This is why one protestant group may employ counter-cult ministries against other protestant sects..or catholicism.  I think that it;s ironic, that everyone in every cult thinks that everyone else is in a cult...and they;re all completely right about that.

The cults in christian religion puts particular emphasis the seeking of particular favor from one authority or another, and  deny or minimize other authorities in the wider belief set.
Bolded substitutions mine.  

Quote: There is not necessarily any doctrinal conflict between sects.  The might be compared to the cult of various saints in Roman Catholicism.
That would be an example of an order within a cult.  

Quote:Christian sects are in doctrinal conflict with each other.  The Egyptian counterpart might be the worship of Atan under Atanatan vs the worship of classical Egyptian pantheon including the likes of Horus, Ammon and Isis.
Egyptian sects were often in doctrinal conflict with each other as well.  Supplanting and replacing each other as the tide of history came in and out on their various groups of adherents. In the process, altering each other and even combining. Religion is, among so many other things, an expression of a continual power struggle. Christian or egyptian.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 24, 2018 at 12:59 pm)sdelsolray Wrote:
(May 24, 2018 at 12:05 pm)Khemikal Wrote: If we ignored all the empty, shallow, and infantile content we'd have nothing to discuss with most of the god botherers that have ever been to these boards, though.  Wink

Good point.  However, many of the empty, shallow and infantile posts are in response to the OP's empty, shallow and infantile posts.

Perhaps if the OP had produced fulfilling, meaningful and mature posts, he wouldn't have received empty, shallow and infantile posts to begin with. 
You get what you pay for and it's always going to be quality over quantity. In this case, it's more like "I know you are but what am I" type of first grade bullshit that we've had to deal with. If the OP writes first grade posts, that's what he will get back. No one here should have to invest more of themselves than what the OP is willing to invest.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 24, 2018 at 11:04 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 24, 2018 at 11:00 am)Wololo Wrote: I read the first ten "prophesies for Jesus" before giving up.  Not a one of them had anything to do with Jesus or predicting his alleged coming.

You needed to keep reading.  The city He is born in is prophesied, his death is prophesied,....You stopped reading too soon.

(May 24, 2018 at 11:02 am)Khemikal Wrote: 350 pages says otherwise, on both counts. Maybe that;s god telling you to change course, before it;s too late?

And, recant saying Dr. Behe is a brilliant scientist.  That would be a lie so I can't do that.

When I read ten pieces of lying bullshit I see no point in reading the next forty. Unlike you, I've never seen the need to think lies are truth.

(May 24, 2018 at 11:27 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 24, 2018 at 11:24 am)Kit Wrote: It is absurd to acknowledge something that is neither clear as day nor true.

DNA, molecular machines, fine-tuned universe, Big Bang, body plans,....

(May 24, 2018 at 11:27 am)Wololo Wrote: It is impossible to get a PhD in science.  Idiot.

He has a PhD in a scientific field is obviously what I meant.  Take your insults and shove it.  By the way, it's in Biochemistry.

What field. And no, that is not what you meant. You hoped we'd be stupid enough to not realise that you don't get qualifications in the whole of science (except in fundie mail order "colleges" like BJU where the answer to all questions including "what is 2+2?" is "goddidit!").
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
You know what I loved up above, about that one?  Faced with the possibility that god was trying to get him to do some x..he tells us how he really feels.  

Cant or wont do it. His loyalty to behe is admirable, if misplaced...now if only he could be as loyal to god...................
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 24, 2018 at 11:27 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 24, 2018 at 11:24 am)Kit Wrote: It is absurd to acknowledge something that is neither clear as day nor true.

DNA, molecular machines, fine-tuned universe, Big Bang, body plans,....

(May 24, 2018 at 11:27 am)Wololo Wrote: It is impossible to get a PhD in science.  Idiot.

He has a PhD in a scientific field is obviously what I meant.  Take your insults and shove it.  By the way, it's in Biochemistry.
And what did the biology department of Lehigh University have to say about Behe?

This...

Quote:The faculty in the Department of Biological Sciences is committed to the highest standards of scientific integrity and academic function. This commitment carries with it unwavering support for academic freedom and the free exchange of ideas. It also demands the utmost respect for the scientific method, integrity in the conduct of research, and recognition that the validity of any scientific model comes only as a result of rational hypothesis testing, sound experimentation, and findings that can be replicated by others.

The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of “intelligent design.” While we respect Prof. Behe's right to express his views, they are his alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific.

Your argument from authority fails. Just another fallacy to add to your growing list of fallacies.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Quote:He has a PhD in a scientific field is obviously what I meant.  Take your insults and shove it.  By the way, it's in Biochemistry.
A pseudoscientist fraud with a Ph.D is still a pseudoscientist fraud. So his insults are apt .

(May 24, 2018 at 2:11 pm)Wololo Wrote:
(May 24, 2018 at 11:04 am)CDF47 Wrote: You needed to keep reading.  The city He is born in is prophesied, his death is prophesied,....You stopped reading too soon.


And, recant saying Dr. Behe is a brilliant scientist.  That would be a lie so I can't do that.

When I read ten pieces of lying bullshit I see no point in reading the next forty.  Unlike you, I've never seen the need to think lies are truth.

(May 24, 2018 at 11:27 am)CDF47 Wrote: DNA, molecular machines, fine-tuned universe, Big Bang, body plans,....


He has a PhD in a scientific field is obviously what I meant.  Take your insults and shove it.  By the way, it's in Biochemistry.

What field.  And no, that is not what you meant.  You hoped we'd be stupid enough to not realise that you don't get qualifications in the whole of science (except in fundie mail order "colleges" like BJU where the answer to all questions including "what is 2+2?" is "goddidit!").
Yup

(May 24, 2018 at 2:21 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(May 24, 2018 at 11:27 am)CDF47 Wrote: DNA, molecular machines, fine-tuned universe, Big Bang, body plans,....


He has a PhD in a scientific field is obviously what I meant.  Take your insults and shove it.  By the way, it's in Biochemistry.
And what did the biology department of Lehigh University have to say about Behe?

This...

Quote:The faculty in the Department of Biological Sciences is committed to the highest standards of scientific integrity and academic function. This commitment carries with it unwavering support for academic freedom and the free exchange of ideas. It also demands the utmost respect for the scientific method, integrity in the conduct of research, and recognition that the validity of any scientific model comes only as a result of rational hypothesis testing, sound experimentation, and findings that can be replicated by others.

The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of “intelligent design.” While we respect Prof. Behe's right to express his views, they are his alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific.

Your argument from authority fails. Just another fallacy to add to your growing list of fallacies.
And the fact he's hated by his own peers sums it up. Now CD will rave about Expelled and go into a conspiracy rant . About made up atheist agenda's.

Need i point out once again the source he relies on most wikipedia all thinks it's pseudoscience .
Quote:though it has been discredited as pseudoscience
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 24, 2018 at 11:59 am)CDF47 Wrote: What is your opinion of his colleague, Dr. Stephen C. Meyer?

Meyers' nonsense dissected...

https://recursed.blogspot.ie/2009/10/ste...heory.html

Meyers ideas are bogus.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Dr. Stephen C. Meyer is a liar and con man .And he's also widely disliked by his own communities . A Ph.d does not make you honest .
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
CDF47 Wrote:Non-coding DNA:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-coding_DNA
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Did you read the part of that article that said this: "Estimates for the biologically functional fraction of our genome based on comparative genomics range between 8 and 15%"?

CDF47 Wrote:
Tizheruk Wrote:Blogs by an actual scientist and expert on genetics and biochemistry.And a professor at the University Of Toronto .

One that calls ID scientists IDiots.  The wiki article does a good job of explaining non-coding DNA.

And says: "Estimates for the biologically functional fraction of our genome based on comparative genomics range between 8 and 15%."

CDF47 Wrote:
Tizheruk Wrote:1. No he's not he a smug prick who drips with condensation

2. Then why did you bring it up ? Oh yeah as a red herring against the guy who mops the floor with your ID bunkum on Junk DNA

Over 85 percent of DNA is non-coding DNA.  3 percent is coding.  Junk DNA is an old myth.

This is not true. Non-coding DNA does not code for proteins, but it does other stuff that is biologically significant. 85% is the estimate of the percentage of the human genome that is biologically nonfunctional.

CDF47 Wrote:
Khemikal Wrote:butt stuff
(seriously, though, sorcerors.................?)

Yes, sorcerors.  People actually practice sorcery to this day.

Do you think they can do 'real' magic?

CDF47 Wrote:
Khemikal Wrote:Sympathetic magic?  Tasseography, astrology, astral projection, tarotology......totemic invocation?

No, but there are people that practice all that.

If they aren't actually doing real magic, who cares? People can practice anything.

CDF47 Wrote:
Tizheruk Wrote:Nope according to REAL science and reason .

I posted real science.

Not that supported your contention that DNA was designed. Complex and designed aren't synonyms. 'Look how complex it is' isn't an argument for design. It just tells us that you think really complex things have to be designed. That's an opinion, not an argument, evidence, or proof. Everything that you posted that was scientifically accurate did not support the notion that someone designed DNA. And you never addressed RNA world, which explains how you get to DNA without a designer.

CDF47 Wrote:forget about the lurkers in this thread.  Who knows if someone learned something new for the first time about DNA, proteins, the universe, the Lord,....

Where do Christians get the idea that they're going to run into someone who never head their schtick who speaks English?

CDF47 Wrote:
Tizheruk Wrote:Nope . I BOW TO NO ONE and have no lord . Least of all a figment of your imagination .

You will see.

Nuh uh. You're going to the Hell of the Mountain of Knives. You will see.

CDF47 Wrote:I haven't threatened anyone.  Just spoke the truth throughout this thread but people hear would rather believe the lie.

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CDF47 Wrote:I am not saying it to threaten but to inform.

Dude, repeating yourself is not informative.

CDF47 Wrote:Yeah, yeah, you guys know it all.  I've heard that script before.  You are blinded by your own arrogance.

So, what did you tell us that you think we didn't already know. Bearing in mind that almost all of us took biology in high school and have been preached at before.
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is it time to move this thread to lifestyle and blogging yet?
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