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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
72 pages of mindless waffle and responses?

We need whipped cream.

Stat!
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
And this is why so many refuse to engage with creationists... A sad waste of a human being.
It's curious how many of them claim to be some sort of engineer. Never (or rarely) actual scientists studying some detail of nature.... just engineers, seeing an engineered world...
Reminds me of the old saying "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_all_yo...ike_a_nail
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 9, 2018 at 5:09 pm)pocaracas Wrote: And this is why so many refuse to engage with creationists... A sad waste of a human being.
It's curious how many of them claim to be some sort of engineer. Never (or rarely) actual scientists studying some detail of nature.... just engineers, seeing an engineered world...
Reminds me of the old saying "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_all_yo...ike_a_nail

No, it is just engineers know and understand design better than anyone.  When we see a code which is transported into an assembly line where various parts are placed together depending on the sequence of the code which then determines the component made which is then transported and formed into its functional shape which is then transported to a cell to perform its function, we as engineers see design and manufacturing which we work with and study ostensibly.  It is obviously designed and it is at a nano-scale and more specific and complex then we can dream.  There is really nothing to argue here, DNA is designed.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 9, 2018 at 5:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 5:09 pm)pocaracas Wrote: And this is why so many refuse to engage with creationists... A sad waste of a human being.
It's curious how many of them claim to be some sort of engineer. Never (or rarely) actual scientists studying some detail of nature.... just engineers, seeing an engineered world...
Reminds me of the old saying "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_all_yo...ike_a_nail

No, it is just engineers know and understand design better than anyone.  When we see a code which is transported into an assembly line where various parts are placed together depending on the sequence of the code which then determines the component made which is then transported and formed into its functional shape which is then transported to a cell to perform its function, we as engineers see design and manufacturing which we work with and study ostensibly.  It is obviously designed and it is at a nano-scale and more specific and complex then we can dream.  There is really nothing to argue here, DNA is designed.

There is really nothing to argue here, DNA is not designed.   Furthermore there is also nothing to argue about the fact that I am an infinitely more accomplished and respected authority than you on anything you could ever care to opine.   So you just shut up.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 9, 2018 at 4:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 4:12 pm)possibletarian Wrote: The argument is generally not against the nature of D.N.A.  But against the irrational attachment of intelligence to it, Nothing you have posted here provides evidence of that link.

Neither do the scientific community (the ones most able to know) attach any form of god or intelligence to it.

There is absolutely no doubt it is designed, 100 percent for sure.  It is like seeing a 747 jumbo jet and saying I wonder if someone designed and built that or if a tornado dropped it here.  Although DNA is way more complex and specific than a 747 jumbo jet.  I was just using that as an analogy.

Quote:There is absolutely no doubt it is designed,

Actually there is, with the scientists who are best qualified to asses these things.

Quote:It is like seeing a 747 jumbo jet and saying I wonder if someone designed and built that or if a tornado dropped it here.

Actually i have never heard anyone say that, they know it's designed. They don't claim that a designer put instructions in the molecules of the plane to construct itself, it not being a living organism, i find such comparisons childish and stupid and a terrible analogy.

Quote:Although DNA is way more complex and specific than a 747 jumbo jet. I was just using that as an analogy.

Complexity does not mean design, it simply means complex.

(May 9, 2018 at 4:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: 72 pages of mindless waffle and responses?

We need whipped cream.

Stat!

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 9, 2018 at 5:41 pm)possibletarian Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 4:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: There is absolutely no doubt it is designed, 100 percent for sure.  It is like seeing a 747 jumbo jet and saying I wonder if someone designed and built that or if a tornado dropped it here.  Although DNA is way more complex and specific than a 747 jumbo jet.  I was just using that as an analogy.

Quote:There is absolutely no doubt it is designed,

Actually there is, with the scientists who are best qualified to asses these things.

Quote:It is like seeing a 747 jumbo jet and saying I wonder if someone designed and built that or if a tornado dropped it here.

Actually i have never heard anyone say that, they know it's designed. They don't claim that a designer put instructions in the molecules of the plane to construct itself, it not being a living organism, i find such comparisons childish and stupid and a terrible analogy.

Quote:Although DNA is way more complex and specific than a 747 jumbo jet. I was just using that as an analogy.

Complexity does not mean design, it simply means complex.

(May 9, 2018 at 4:58 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: 72 pages of mindless waffle and responses?

We need whipped cream.

Stat!

It always comes to some kind of whipping with you Tongue

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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 9, 2018 at 4:31 pm)Wololo Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 2:41 am)CDF47 Wrote: LOL.  I have deeply examined the evidence and it totally points to a Designer.

Be honest Mr Inquisition, you've studied the crack of my arse more seriously than you've studied any aspect of biology.

If you even made the most cursory examination of the evidence available you'd accept that evolution is true and that the Modern Synthesis is the best model of explanation we have, and a very accurate and predictive one at that.

Creatardism neither explains the current status, fits the available evidence nor can be used to make a prediction about either missing evidence or possible future directions, mainly because it does not seek to describe reality but to try and fit, bend and misshape reality into a straitjacket.

PS I'm also guessing Mr Inquisition has no job, no friends and no activities which take him out of his mother's basement.  Otherwise why would he be parked on this thread 24/7?

I said I believe micro-evolution is true.  I believe in change over time.  I already said that so stop the spin.

(May 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 5:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, it is just engineers know and understand design better than anyone.  When we see a code which is transported into an assembly line where various parts are placed together depending on the sequence of the code which then determines the component made which is then transported and formed into its functional shape which is then transported to a cell to perform its function, we as engineers see design and manufacturing which we work with and study ostensibly.  It is obviously designed and it is at a nano-scale and more specific and complex then we can dream.  There is really nothing to argue here, DNA is designed.

There is really nothing to argue here, DNA is not designed.   Furthermore there is also nothing to argue about the fact that I am an infinitely more accomplished and respected authority than you on anything you could ever care to opine.   So you just shut up.

You think your studies of science on this atheist forum have given you any credibility.  LMAO.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 9, 2018 at 9:29 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 4:31 pm)Wololo Wrote: Be honest Mr Inquisition, you've studied the crack of my arse more seriously than you've studied any aspect of biology.

If you even made the most cursory examination of the evidence available you'd accept that evolution is true and that the Modern Synthesis is the best model of explanation we have, and a very accurate and predictive one at that.

Creatardism neither explains the current status, fits the available evidence nor can be used to make a prediction about either missing evidence or possible future directions, mainly because it does not seek to describe reality but to try and fit, bend and misshape reality into a straitjacket.

PS I'm also guessing Mr Inquisition has no job, no friends and no activities which take him out of his mother's basement.  Otherwise why would he be parked on this thread 24/7?

I said I believe micro-evolution is true.  I believe in change over time.  I already said that so stop the spin.

(May 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: There is really nothing to argue here, DNA is not designed.   Furthermore there is also nothing to argue about the fact that I am an infinitely more accomplished and respected authority than you on anything you could ever care to opine.   So you just shut up.

You think your studies of science on this atheist forum have given you any credibility.  LMAO.

You are funny. We should get rid of you last.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 9, 2018 at 5:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, it is just engineers know and understand design better than anyone. 

Way to insult every medical specialist and scientific researcher who has ever done extensive work with DNA and has easily proven your silly argument false. Now you're just trolling. Intentionally being obtuse and willfully refusing to even listen to what's being offered to you in this thread. 

Quote:When we see a code which is transported into an assembly line where various parts are placed together depending on the sequence of the code which then determines the component made which is then transported and formed into its functional shape which is then transported to a cell to perform its function, we as engineers see design and manufacturing which we work with and study ostensibly.   

Longest. Run on. Sentence. Ever. Get a hobby dude. It's clear that accurate knowledge in DNA is not in your wheelhouse. Live beings are not developed in some warehouse, on some assembly line just because you seem to think that DNA is designed. Ya got a bad batch of crack there, buddy. 

Quote:It is obviously designed and it is at a nano-scale and more specific and complex then we can dream.  There is really nothing to argue here, DNA is designed.

For the 80 bazillionth time, NO it isn't. And you have clearly and repeatedly FAILED to represent any merits to your argument, successfully. Repeating your beliefs doesn't make them true. It simply means you are a broken record with no means of moving any discussion forward. 

Trollers gonna troll, troll, troll, troll.
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(November 14, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Have a good day at work.  If we ever meet in a professional setting, let me answer your question now.  Yes, I DO want fries with that.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(May 9, 2018 at 5:37 pm)CDF47 Wrote:
(May 9, 2018 at 5:09 pm)pocaracas Wrote: And this is why so many refuse to engage with creationists... A sad waste of a human being.
It's curious how many of them claim to be some sort of engineer. Never (or rarely) actual scientists studying some detail of nature.... just engineers, seeing an engineered world...
Reminds me of the old saying "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail": https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_all_yo...ike_a_nail

No, it is just engineers know and understand design better than anyone.  When we see a code which is transported into an assembly line where various parts are placed together depending on the sequence of the code which then determines the component made which is then transported and formed into its functional shape which is then transported to a cell to perform its function, we as engineers see design and manufacturing which we work with and study ostensibly.  It is obviously designed and it is at a nano-scale and more specific and complex then we can dream.  There is really nothing to argue here, DNA is designed.

Because engineers work with design ALL THE TIME!
Engineers can't deal with non-designed things.

If you could, how would you expect something to look like if it were not designed?
Just give me an example of anything that's not designed. (we've clearly established that rocks are designed, so I can't even fathom how you'll answer this)
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