DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Abaddon_ire]

No, your god explicitly lies in the bible starting with adam.

How would they know there was anything wrong with that? god told them not to, you say? How would they know that was right?

How. A&E were vegetarians and no animals died until god killed them. Anything else is just you making crap up.
It isn't in the bible.

That's stupid. How many more progeny could they produce if they didn't die?

Seems to me that you are attempting and failing to demonstrate gods omnipotence.

Who created the sin? Who created the punishment?

The bible claims that god is not even vaguely just. How did your god treat the Amalakites? Was that just? Is slavery just? Is a death penalty for homosexuality just? How about picking up sticks on the sabbath? Is that death penalty just?

What sacrifice? Are you now claiming that jesus is dead?

Then if true, why has sin NOT been removed? Why does your god consider slavery to be moral while the rest of the world does not? Why does the rest of the world consider genocide to be immoral and your god does not?

It could be part of a strawberry blancmange. That is meaningless speculation by precisely you.

OK what?

Nobody can stop you from believing fairy stories. Rather odd in someone who claims to be an adult, no?

For some reason, you continue to imagine that such an answer answers anything.

ORLY? You can beat your slave as much as you wish and so long as they don't die of the beating within a couple of days then that is OK with you? That is one of your gods rules. Once again we discover that you are ignorant of your own bible.

Sure. But that does not excuse your god's outright thuggery, and being more moral than your god, we are actually working to eliminate it, unlike your god who simply keeps on supporting it.

Oh. Now you claim that your god is neither perfect nor omnibenevolent. Your god is a capricious hateful thug.

You want that? Sure. Simply stop with your Gish Gallop and address one thing at a time. But you don't really want that because you know that all of your claims will be shredded for the morally repugnant crap they are. Somewhere you realise that you are more moral than the god you claim. Your problem is that you struggle to reconcile that fact.


So like Andrea Yeats, you would be OK with killing your own children?
Once again, imaginary figures.

No, He doesn't.

God told them not to and they ate from the tree.  They knowingly disobeyed God and the fall of man occurred.

I believe there was animal death in Eden.

That's not stupid.  They had to multiple the earth after leaving the Eden.

God works through people at His will as stated in the Scriptures.

The devil was the first during the war in heaven.  Adam was the first man to sin.  God decides the punishment for sin.

If God decides the penalty it is just.  For instance, picking up sticks, after God said not to work.  God knew that man in his heart was disobeying him so killed him.  God can take our lives at his will as He has given us life.  The slavery had a time limit on it and it was not to be harsh.  The incest when it happened was only to multiply the land.  No one is designed to be homosexual.  It goes against the design.  That person should repent and pray and become straight.  God wiped out a certain people because they were wicked and He would at times give that land to His chosen people.

Jesus died and rose 3 days later.  The Son of God, co-equal with the Father and the Holy Spirit of the Godhead, suffered and died to atone for our sins as the chosen lamb.  He is the Messiah.  Yeshua HaMashiach is the living Son of God!

The world still moves on as more souls are created on the earth to as many as God wills.  The end will come and that will be the end of sin.  The Lord will return in His full glory and power and bring up His people and destroy the wicked.  Slavery was common in the times of the OT.  God gave rules for un-harsh slavery.  Slavery continues today in the world and sometimes it is harsh.  God wiped out people in big groups when they were exceedingly wicked.

Not it's not.


Re-read question and response.

I believe in the Lord.  Science backs up a Creator.

Disagree.

In those times corporeal punishment for rebellion was common and the Lord allows that.  Today, people should spank their children more for disobedience so they grow up to be more obedient.  I am not talking about child abuse just a smack on the ass to get the inline from time to time.

It is God's will.

No He's not.  He has a righteous anger and hatred of evil.

Disagree.

Never.

Disagree.

OK it seems that you are too thick to multi-quote. So I will have to dumb it down for your level.
bible god is demonstrably an evil thug. You have subverted your brain, for reasons unexplained, to that evil thug.

So far so good?

[CDF47]

No, He doesn't.

God told them not to and they ate from the tree.  They knowingly disobeyed God and the fall of man occurred.

I believe there was animal death in Eden.

That's not stupid.  They had to multiple the earth after leaving the Eden.

God works through people at His will as stated in the Scriptures.

The devil was the first during the war in heaven.  Adam was the first man to sin.  God decides the punishment for sin.

If God decides the penalty it is just.  For instance, picking up sticks, after God said not to work.  God knew that man in his heart was disobeying him so killed him.  God can take our lives at his will as He has given us life.  The slavery had a time limit on it and it was not to be harsh.  The incest when it happened was only to multiply the land.  No one is designed to be homosexual.  It goes against the design.  That person should repent and pray and become straight.  God wiped out a certain people because they were wicked and He would at times give that land to His chosen people.

Jesus died and rose 3 days later.  The Son of God, co-equal with the Father and the Holy Spirit of the Godhead, suffered and died to atone for our sins as the chosen lamb.  He is the Messiah.  Yeshua HaMashiach is the living Son of God!

The world still moves on as more souls are created on the earth to as many as God wills.  The end will come and that will be the end of sin.  The Lord will return in His full glory and power and bring up His people and destroy the wicked.  Slavery was common in the times of the OT.  God gave rules for un-harsh slavery.  Slavery continues today in the world and sometimes it is harsh.  God wiped out people in big groups when they were exceedingly wicked.

Not it's not.


Re-read question and response.

I believe in the Lord.  Science backs up a Creator.

Disagree.

In those times corporeal punishment for rebellion was common and the Lord allows that.  Today, people should spank their children more for disobedience so they grow up to be more obedient.  I am not talking about child abuse just a smack on the ass to get the inline from time to time.

It is God's will.

No He's not.  He has a righteous anger and hatred of evil.

Disagree.

Never.

Disagree.

OK it seems that you are too thick to multi-quote. So I will have to dumb it down for your level.
bible god is demonstrably an evil thug. You have subverted your brain, for reasons unexplained, to that evil thug.

So far so good?

God is perfectly just and perfectly holy.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Why does your god design fetuses in the womb with defects who then die before they are born?

It's due to sin and the fall of man.  That's why there are defects in the creation.

That doesn't answer the question. You eventually answered it for why your god gives babies birth defects.


Why does your god design fetuses in the womb with defects who then die before they are born?

[possibletarian]

No, God is not evil but He allows evil to run its course.  God is totally holy and good. 

Then where did evil come from if god designed all things perfect ?
If god is in all things, where did evil come from?

Some scientists do not believe in free will and others do at this time.  Not all of science is going against it.

Actually it is the prevailing theory at the moment, that we don't have free will, and growing, did you even read the links ?

I just trust my intuition.  I listen to my own inner-voice.

You can understand why when you use the fairytale nonsense in the bible as the source, and then when asked why you believe it, that you say 'an inner voice'' how we might treat what you say with a little scepticism.

[CDF47]

It's due to sin and the fall of man.  That's why there are defects in the creation.

That doesn't answer the question. You eventually answered it for why your god gives babies birth defects.


Why does your god design fetuses in the womb with defects who then die before they are born?

Because the entire world is defective.  That child was not meant to be born but to die before birth.  All the suffering and death has to do with the fall of man and sin.

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No, God is not evil but He allows evil to run its course.  God is totally holy and good. 

Then where did evil come from if god designed all things perfect ?
If god is in all things, where did evil come from?

Some scientists do not believe in free will and others do at this time.  Not all of science is going against it.

Actually it is the prevailing theory at the moment, that we don't have free will, and growing, did you even read the links ?

I just trust my intuition.  I listen to my own inner-voice.

You can understand why when you use the fairytale nonsense in the bible as the source, and then when asked why you believe it, that you say 'an inner voice'' how we might treat what you say with a little scepticism.

Evil exists because goodness exists.  It is part of the ultimate reality.  Man did not have to choose to have knowledge of evil if Adam did not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. In the end, God will destroy hell and death in the lake of fire.

I took a quick look at the links.  I didn't have time to read the entire thing.  I read the conclusion.

We all have a voice in our head that tells us what to do and what not to do.  We all were born with intuition.

[possibletarian]

That doesn't answer the question. You eventually answered it for why your god gives babies birth defects.


Why does your god design fetuses in the womb with defects who then die before they are born?

Because the entire world is defective.  That child was not meant to be born but to die before birth.  All the suffering and death has to do with the fall of man and sin.

---

Then where did evil come from if god designed all things perfect ?
If god is in all things, where did evil come from?


Actually it is the prevailing theory at the moment, that we don't have free will, and growing, did you even read the links ?


You can understand why when you use the fairytale nonsense in the bible as the source, and then when asked why you believe it, that you say 'an inner voice'' how we might treat what you say with a little scepticism.

Evil exists because goodness exists.  It is part of the ultimate reality.  Man did not have to choose to have knowledge of evil if Adam did not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

I took a quick look at the links.  I didn't have time to read the entire thing.  I read the conclusion.

We all have a voice in our head that tells us what to do and what not to do.  We all were born with intuition.

Do you really believe that, or feel you have to say that because you are trapped in a corner ?

[CDF47]

Because the entire world is defective.  That child was not meant to be born but to die before birth.  All the suffering and death has to do with the fall of man and sin.

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Evil exists because goodness exists.  It is part of the ultimate reality.  Man did not have to choose to have knowledge of evil if Adam did not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

I took a quick look at the links.  I didn't have time to read the entire thing.  I read the conclusion.

We all have a voice in our head that tells us what to do and what not to do.  We all were born with intuition.

Do you really believe that, or feel you have to say that because you are trapped in a corner ?

I really believe this.  I do not say things I do not believe.  I always try to be honest.

[possibletarian]

Evil exists because goodness exists.  It is part of the ultimate reality.  Man did not have to choose to have knowledge of evil if Adam did not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.  In the end, God will destroy hell and death in the lake of fire.

Really the evil exists as part of gods creation and came from god ?

I took a quick look at the links.  I didn't have time to read the entire thing.  I read the conclusion.

Okay

We all have a voice in our head that tells us what to do and what not to do.  We all were born with intuition.

Yes, that does not mean that it is free though.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Why does your god design fetuses in the womb with defects who then die before they are born?

Because the entire world is defective.  That child was not meant to be born but to die before birth. 

The entire world is defective by your god's design according to you. So why did your god deliberately design some fetuses to not survive? Why not have them not exist in the first place?

[CDF47]

That doesn't answer the question. You eventually answered it for why your god gives babies birth defects.


Why does your god design fetuses in the womb with defects who then die before they are born?

Because the entire world is defective.  That child was not meant to be born but to die before birth.  All the suffering and death has to do with the fall of man and sin.

---

Then where did evil come from if god designed all things perfect ?
If god is in all things, where did evil come from?


Actually it is the prevailing theory at the moment, that we don't have free will, and growing, did you even read the links ?


You can understand why when you use the fairytale nonsense in the bible as the source, and then when asked why you believe it, that you say 'an inner voice'' how we might treat what you say with a little scepticism.

Evil exists because goodness exists.  It is part of the ultimate reality.  Man did not have to choose to have knowledge of evil if Adam did not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.  In the end, God will destroy hell and death in the lake of fire.

Really the evil exists as part of gods creation and came from god ?

I took a quick look at the links.  I didn't have time to read the entire thing.  I read the conclusion.

Okay

We all have a voice in our head that tells us what to do and what not to do.  We all were born with intuition.

Yes, that does not mean that it is free though.

Evil came when the devil and his followers rebelled against God using their own free will.  It is part of the ultimate reality as I said.  
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I believe it is based on Scripture and science even if some or the majority of scientists disagree.