DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Whateverist]

I imagine things just wouldn't go together very well.  Puddles would no longer fit the holes they sit in.  The conditions inhospitable to life in all but a splinter of a splinter of a splinter of 1% of the known universe now would extend even to the few small spaces where life currently finds a foothold.  Gravity would fail or only work intermittently.  Gloves would come poorly paired.  The weak force would overwhelm the strong force.  It would just be a shit mess.  Fortunately God has the dials set just right.  We sure are lucky, huh?

What are the odds that the creator of the universe would be finely-tuned to create a universe perfect for us?

Given that we finely tune our interpretation of the characters in the bible stories, I'd say the probability is 1. (It's an inside job.)

[Abaddon_ire]

How can you think him both clever and a drooling moron? That makes about as much sense as his thoughts on ID and DNA.

Well that is simple. There is such a thing as the occasional scientist who is also a YEC. John Lummox springs to mind. William Lane Crank also. Both are intelligent folks, but comprehensively dumb when it comes to religion.

[CDF47]

That was the question.

No it wasn't.
The question was: what would a non-designed universe be like?

Impossible

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Wow... He went all night without a single comment here. Impressive.

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8 hours, anyway.

The guy is struggling with the fact that his supposed killer argument simply isn't. It isn't killer and does not rise to the level of an actual argument.

Given that, he has to roll back and reformulate his borked argument, or seek further instruction from his pastor who tells him what to think.

On foot of that, we can expect three possibles.

1. Return and stamp his feet on his previous bullshit.

2. A hard right with a new argument provided by his pastor which he does not understand.

3. Nothing.

At this point even christian sites ban the guy, so what are we to make of that?

No Christian site or any other site aside from TTA has ever banned me.

[The Grand Nudger]

No it wasn't.
The question was: what would a non-designed universe be like?

Impossible

Now, do you know why this one;s ridiculous?  Assuming we do live in a designed universe..the particulars of this designed universe would have to -be- possible if the design itself were to be possible.  If a universe like this one wasn;t possible before any notions of design are factored in, no amount of designing it would make it work.

If you;re going to find endless ways to refuse to engage in your own conversation..at least put in the effort to make that refusal cogent.

[Amarok]

Impossible

Personnel incredulity

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No Christian site or any other site aside from TTA has ever banned me.

Lol i'm sure

[CDF47]

Impossible

Now, do you know why this one;s ridiculous?  Assuming we do live in a designed universe..the particulars of this designed universe would have to -be- possible if the design itself were to be possible.  If a universe like this one wasn;t possible before any notions of design are factored in, no amount of designing it would make it work.

If you;re going to find endless ways to refuse to engage in your own conversation..at least put in the effort to make that refusal cogent.

My point is you can't get a whole universe from nothing. A design is required.

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Impossible

Personnel incredulity

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No Christian site or any other site aside from TTA has ever banned me.

Lol i'm sure

Yeah, it's true.  Members at TTA would ask me religious questions and I would explain and then I got banned for proselytizing....LOL.  What a joke that was.

[possibletarian]

My point is you can't get a whole universe from nothing. A design is required.

How do you know ?
Who is claiming the universe came from nothing, do you have any evidence to support the universe came from nothing ?
Why is design required ?

[Angrboda]

Now, do you know why this one;s ridiculous?  Assuming we do live in a designed universe..the particulars of this designed universe would have to -be- possible if the design itself were to be possible.  If a universe like this one wasn;t possible before any notions of design are factored in, no amount of designing it would make it work.

If you;re going to find endless ways to refuse to engage in your own conversation..at least put in the effort to make that refusal cogent.

My point is you can't get a whole universe from nothing. A design is required.

This seems like simply yet another falsehood you believe and peddle without reason or justification.

[Amarok]

My point is you can't get a whole universe from nothing. A design is required

Strawman mixed with a bare assertion .

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Yeah, it's true.  Members at TTA would ask me religious questions and I would explain and then I got banned for proselytizing....LOL.  What a joke that was.

I read the thread you were on .You did not answer their question all you did was preach at them .

[CDF47]

My point is you can't get a whole universe from nothing. A design is required.

How do you know ?
Who is claiming the universe came from nothing, do you have any evidence to support the universe came from nothing ?
Why is design required ?

A design is required because you can't get something/everything from nothing.  The universe had a beginning and is fine-tuned based on the most widely accepted scientific theories.  It was designed.

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My point is you can't get a whole universe from nothing. A design is required

Strawman mixed with a bare assertion .

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Yeah, it's true.  Members at TTA would ask me religious questions and I would explain and then I got banned for proselytizing....LOL.  What a joke that was.

I read the thread you were on .You did not answer their question all you did was preach at them .

I tried answering their questions.  I wasn't just preaching to them.  They were asking religious questions and then banned me for answering them. At least this place doesn't pull some BS like that.