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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:03 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 10:00 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 9:56 pm)CDF47 Wrote: He just always was and He is and He always will be. He transcends this universe/space time.
That’s not an answer. I want to know how he does this. If he exists; if he’s real, then he must interact with reality on some level. How? I want the mechanics of his state of existence, and the evidence to back up your explanation. You don’t get to demand explanations from us about DNA up and down 400 pages without even trying to explain your own bald assertion.
Spoiler alert: any answer that starts with, “the Bible says” doesn’t cut it.
The evidence is in the creation that it was created by a mind. Look at DNA and molecular machines and the fine-tuned universe. He can also be found in the Bible and in our own conscious.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:05 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 10:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 10:00 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: That’s not an answer. I want to know how he does this. If he exists; if he’s real, then he must interact with reality on some level. How? I want the mechanics of his state of existence, and the evidence to back up your explanation. You don’t get to demand explanations from us about DNA up and down 400 pages without even trying to explain your own bald assertion.
Spoiler alert: any answer that starts with, “the Bible says” doesn’t cut it.
The evidence is in the creation that it was created by a mind. Look at DNA and molecular machines and the fine-tuned universe. He can also be found in the Bible and in our own conscious.
I am asking you to provide the mechanism of his state of existence and then back that up with evidence of this mechanism. Try again.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:05 pm
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(June 5, 2018 at 10:00 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 9:48 pm)CDF47 Wrote: He is outside the math of this universe. He created it.
If he existed and the universe did not, then that moment and that of creation are two moments, and he exists in time (Craig, 2002). If he existed in time, and is a necessary being -- has always existed -- then he couldn't have created the universe, as that would have required the traversal of an actual infinite, which is impossible (Craig, 2007). If he existed and created simultaneously, then he also exists in time, as simultaneity is a temporal relation. In that case he did not create the universe because a cause must precede its effect. So, your God did not create the universe in either case. As this exhausts the potential cases, your God did not create the universe.
QED.
He created the universe just how humans can simulate a created universe creation on a computer. He transcends this universe He created.
(June 5, 2018 at 10:05 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 10:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The evidence is in the creation that it was created by a mind. Look at DNA and molecular machines and the fine-tuned universe. He can also be found in the Bible and in our own conscious.
I am asking you to provide the mechanism of his state of existence and then back that up with evidence of this mechanism. Try again.
He is immeasurable.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:07 pm
Oh, you trollolol. Seriously, you need a hobby or a girlfriend.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:11 pm
Quote:The evidence is in the creation that it was created by a mind. Look at DNA and molecular machines and the fine-tuned universe. He can also be found in the Bible and in our own conscious.
Assertion,Circular reasoning , Non sequitur ,
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:12 pm
Can we report him yet?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:12 pm
Quote:He created the universe just how humans can simulate a created universe creation on a computer. He transcends this universe He created.
Bare assertion ,Special pleading
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:12 pm
(June 5, 2018 at 10:05 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (June 5, 2018 at 10:00 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: If he existed and the universe did not, then that moment and that of creation are two moments, and he exists in time (Craig, 2002). If he existed in time, and is a necessary being -- has always existed -- then he couldn't have created the universe, as that would have required the traversal of an actual infinite, which is impossible (Craig, 2007). If he existed and created simultaneously, then he also exists in time, as simultaneity is a temporal relation. In that case he did not create the universe because a cause must precede its effect. So, your God did not create the universe in either case. As this exhausts the potential cases, your God did not create the universe.
QED.
He created the universe just how humans can simulate a created universe creation on a computer. He transcends this universe He created.
Then he is not a necessary being, and again, is not God, by definition.
You don't avoid my logic with moronic assertions that you haven't thought through. Unfortunately, thinking doesn't appear to be something you're capable of doing.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:13 pm
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Quote:He is immeasurable.
Special pleading
Quote:He just always was and He is and He always will be. He transcends this universe/space time.
Special pleading
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
June 5, 2018 at 10:25 pm
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(June 5, 2018 at 10:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Oh, you trollolol. Seriously, you need a hobby or a girlfriend.
I am divorced. Looking for a new girlfriend though...LOL
(June 5, 2018 at 10:12 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Can we report him yet?
Report for what now?
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