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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 14, 2018 at 7:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: [quote='possibletarian' pid='1774956' dateline='1528935481']

And, so they noticed that people who lost blood died.. hell they killed their sacrifices that way by bleeding them to death.  I suspect all tribes and nations on earth at time knew the relationship between loosing blood and death.

It's really fucking stupid to make that a quote for D.N.A. or anything more that a sensible look at the time period tells us.

Quote:No, dude, it's stating that life is in the blood which is true, regardless of what the verse is about.

It could just as easily said life is in the brain, or the heart .... It really is no reason to think that it's an inspired word from a god. In fact if it were an intelligent being it would have been more specific in it's inspired writings.

To state what is obvious even to the most ignorant person around around at the time (we need blood to live) and then call it inspired is what is fucking stupid.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 14, 2018 at 11:50 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(June 14, 2018 at 11:44 am)pocaracas Wrote: So much is wrong with that...
First, kneel? People have been saying that sort of thing for ages... and the only thing we see happening is that people die and pass on the notion... Dead people don't have legs, so they don't kneel.

Confess that someone is the LORD?
First, confess? People confess for things they did that are wrong... why would someone confess something like that? At best, profess, no?
Second, LORD? Lord of what? Like a king? That's a terribly old-fashioned notion of the divine - a copy of the hierarchy people observed on Earth, around that geographical niche.

At first, you seemed to be able to differentiate your (faulty) conclusion that there must be some god that created this whole thing, from your belief that said god is the Christian one... but this sentence of yours just shows that the important thing, for you, is the belief part.
Faith trumps everything, huh?... well, you be happy with your life like that, while we remain in the realist part of the argument.
Go.
Bye Bye.
There's nothing more for you to see or do.

Despite all the proof and evidence of a Creator you still choose to be willfully blind to the notion.  Unreal.

After we die I believe we have bodies.

Also, one of the definitions for confess is declare (one's religious faith).

See just by trying to act smart you learned so much from your flaws.


What is unreal is a person born 150 years after Darwin and allegedly exposed to modern science can still be so beholden to Iron Age flimflam that he could present its doggerel as “evidence” while utterly oblivious to the possibility of total contradiction from modern science, and could even grow indignant when he is pointed out to be the gullible ignorant moron he is.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 14, 2018 at 11:19 am)CDF47 Wrote: The day will come where you will bow down and confess Jesus as Lord.

Dead people cannot bow, no matter what Paul the Antichrist thought.

There will be no one at all in heaven or hell, because they are fictional places.  Your faith terminates automatically and permanently when you draw your last breath, and you won't even know that you never made it to the pearly gates.

Stop wasting the only life you will ever have on second-hand mythology from a regressive Middle Eastern cult.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 14, 2018 at 10:59 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(June 14, 2018 at 10:22 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Life is in every living cell in every organism that has living cells. Blood is not only not special in this regard, red blood cells do not contain the genome for the organism, unlike every other type of living cell in our bodies.


We already know DNA is complicated. We already know its operation is amazing. It's condescending for you to repeatedly talk like we're unaware of this, and disingenuous considering how many times you've already told us that, and how many times we've told you we get it.

However, we've an excellent idea of how natural processes can result in DNA, despite how complex and amazing it is, and what you keep failing provide is a reason to thing biologists are wrong about the likely pathway to first DNA formation.

I could forgive a 9th century Norse person for thinking lighting was caused by Thor, but at this point it's willful ignorance for a follower of Thor to claim that their god causes lightning because there are still some areas about lighting formation and behavior that we haven't pinned down yet. It's the 21st century and you worship a god that you apparently can't believe is competent enough to design a universe where DNA can form naturally on at least one planet out of the billions and billions scattered over billions and billions of galaxies.

The verse doesn't go into that much detail regarding life in the blood.

I was asked the same question again and the answer is the same!  Scientists do not have a pathway for first DNA formation.  It takes DNA to code for proteins and DNA is locked inside a protein.  So what came first, the chicken or the egg.  DNA is a miracle.

DNA can not form naturally in an infinite number of universes.  The code did not write itself.

And as long as your argument is not simply that we do not have that knowledge, but based upon our ignorance, there cannot be such a pathway, then we will continue to point out that this is an argument from ignorance, so your conclusion doesn't follow from the premises. This has been pointed out to you time and again, but you seem to blithely ignore the fact that this argument does not in any sense prove design. If you have another argument besides, "Ehrmagherd DNA, therefore God," I'd be more than happy to listen. However if all you can do is simply repeat the same invalid argument, no matter how many times it's pointed out to you that it's invalid, then you are nothing but a willfully ignorant and obtuse clown.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
AF Award for ‘troll who racked up the most pages in one thread before getting the ban hammer’ goes to CDF! This is quite an accomplishment, I must say.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
The Wedge Document, with its 5 year plan is now nearly 20 years old.

Dembski, Behe, Myers et al are largely silent now and have not continued to publish in peer-reviewed journals.

They created a flurry in the late 90's and early 20's, predominantly among Xtian evangelicals and creationists and some journalistic interest.

That's it though. Now a couple of blogs and websites too dull to link to and the masters of the movement are broadly silent.

So much said for the movement that was going to turn biology on its head.

The actual scientific world no longer cares; they put out the fires a decade ago now.

Linkie about the scale of the lie.

https://ncse.com/creationism/general/wedge-document
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 14, 2018 at 12:35 pm)possibletarian Wrote:
(June 14, 2018 at 7:07 am)CDF47 Wrote:
(June 13, 2018 at 8:18 pm)possibletarian Wrote: And, so they noticed that people who lost blood died.. hell they killed their sacrifices that way by bleeding them to death.  I suspect all tribes and nations on earth at time knew the relationship between loosing blood and death.

It's really fucking stupid to make that a quote for D.N.A. or anything more that a sensible look at the time period tells us.

Quote:No, dude, it's stating that life is in the blood which is true, regardless of what the verse is about.

It could just as easily said life is in the brain, or the heart .... It really is no reason to think that it's an inspired word from a god. In fact if it were an intelligent being it would have been more specific in it's inspired writings.

To state what is obvious even to the most ignorant person around around at the time (we need blood to live) and then call it inspired is what is fucking stupid.
Follow the gourd, no you fool follow the shoe......



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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
(June 14, 2018 at 2:21 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: AF Award for ‘troll who racked up the most pages in one thread before getting the ban hammer’ goes to CDF!  This is quite an accomplishment, I must say.

I recently remarked that, "Crazy never gets tired." To that I would only add that neither does stupidity.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Forty-nine more pages, you can do it.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
Itd be a shame if he crapped out so close to the golden ring.  Especially since we;re all doing our part to help push his corpse across the line.
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