DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Anomalocaris]

At work.

That's quite amusing. Wrong, totally wrong but amusing.

Not amusing considering children in Africa are starving and yet the likes of him consumes food.

[CDF47]

That last 2000 years are the end times just waiting for the Lord to return and gather His people.

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Faith.  Thankfully, the Lord gave us the information in DNA to know a Creator exists to strengthen faith; especially for technical people like me.

LOL. 
You are not exactly a "technical" person. You don't even get the science of the flood.

It is the only religion which talks of creation in real terms aside from Islam and Judaism.  

Actually it isn't. You just never studied religions.

There are prophecies fulfilled in the Bible hundreds of years after it was written.  Jesus is prophesied numerous times in the Old Testament.  

The role of a prophet was not to tell the future. This is the ignorance of Fundamentalism. Omen reading was forbidden.

Also, the science stands up unlike with Islam. I also believe with the new information we find in DNA we find a Creator who is active in His creation which I believe destroys the deist belief.

You also know no basic chemistry. You see things that are not there, due to your complete ignorance.
You can repeat this shit until kingdom come, it won't be true then either. It's nonsense. Nothing but rubbish.

That's your opinion.

The prophet predicted the future at times when interpreting dreams and visions.  Jesus was predicted.  The Book of Daniel has much prophecy in it about future kingdoms using symbolic language.  It is really interesting and cool to read and understand the prophecies.

[LadyForCamus]

Whyyyyyyyy is it still here?! 😭

[Abaddon_ire]

LOL. 
You are not exactly a "technical" person. You don't even get the science of the flood.


Actually it isn't. You just never studied religions.


The role of a prophet was not to tell the future. This is the ignorance of Fundamentalism. Omen reading was forbidden.


You also know no basic chemistry. You see things that are not there, due to your complete ignorance.
You can repeat this shit until kingdom come, it won't be true then either. It's nonsense. Nothing but rubbish.

That's your opinion.

The prophet predicted the future at times when interpreting dreams and visions.  Jesus was predicted.  The Book of Daniel has much prophecy in it about future kingdoms using symbolic language.  It is really interesting and cool to read and understand the prophecies.

That's interesting. You think Daniel was accurate despite getting everything wrong. How do you reconcile that?

[Bucky Ball]

LOL. 
You are not exactly a "technical" person. You don't even get the science of the flood.


Actually it isn't. You just never studied religions.


The role of a prophet was not to tell the future. This is the ignorance of Fundamentalism. Omen reading was forbidden.


You also know no basic chemistry. You see things that are not there, due to your complete ignorance.
You can repeat this shit until kingdom come, it won't be true then either. It's nonsense. Nothing but rubbish.

That's your opinion.

The prophet predicted the future at times when interpreting dreams and visions.  Jesus was predicted.  The Book of Daniel has much prophecy in it about future kingdoms using symbolic language.  It is really interesting and cool to read and understand the prophecies.

Unfortunately for you, it's what students in Bible 101 learn. 
"Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft". 
Your "prophesy is omen reading. It was an abomination. 

You are nothing but one of many (dime a dozen) amateur Christian charlatans posting here, who know absolutely nothing about the subject you pretend to speak on. Go get yourself an education. 

The ancient role of a prophet in Hebrew culture was to interpret the words or will of their god to the people OF THEIR OWN DAY. NOT to predict the future. (That's Hollywood's idea of the role of a prophet). 

So you often hear fundies talking about "prophesy", and how various prophesies were a 'foretelling", or prediction of the future, and indeed they count them up as "proof" that Jebus or whatever HAS to be true, as the "prophecy" came true. 

In fact Leviticus forbade fortune telling and divination, so we know it was an abomination to even think in these terms for many/most centuries in Hebrew culture. However, with the rise of Apocalypticism, around the turn of the millennium, this changed somewhat, and is evidenced in many Christian writings, including the gospels, as they adopted the notions absent in ancient Israel, but coming into popular view with the Essenes. In terms of Hebrew culture, and the "telling of or prediction of" the future, was unknown, and forbidden, and not at ALL a view of the major prophets themselves. However in the the new view, certain "hidden meanings" or "pesherim" began to be looked for, in the practice of Midrash. The name for this is called "pesher", (or seeking a "hidden meaning"), which was not even known to the original speaker/writer, but only "revealed" later

to certain believers. Originally, the (plural) "pesherim" were only fully revealed to the Son of Righteousness, (the leader of the Essenes), and the idea was first found and fully understood after scholars read the Dead Sea scrolls, and was a sub category of "Midrash", (or study of the texts). 





http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...15650.html
Thus we see that "prophesy" as fortune telling as began to be practiced in Judaism around the First Century, (and picked up by Christians and the gospel writers), really was a very late invention and never a classical part of Hebrew scripture, or understanding, either interpretation, or intention, and certainly was not the function of the ancient office of "prophet", in Hebrew culture, who was to be a "mouthpiece" to the people of their own day, and not Madame Zelda with her crystal ball.

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[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

That's quite amusing. Wrong, totally wrong but amusing.

Not amusing considering children in Africa are starving and yet the likes of him consumes food.

The plight of those suffering Africa and , truth be told other ravaged places in the world are a far more complicated fix than the simple ramblings here might address.

So, slalloming back into the topic, an intetesting question to the OP is in regards to the DNA and all the things it does not support by way of the OP's assertions.

Some of which have already been pointed out.

I.E.

Lack of evidence for drastic genetic bottle-necks.

That mitochondrial Eve is dated many thousands of years apart from the genes of the so called Adam.

That the myriad evidences for theory of evolution indicate a 'Deeper' amount of time than the OP allots.

The list goes on.

Strange, nay almost cherry picked, seem the OP's limited fixations

[CDF47]

That's your opinion.

The prophet predicted the future at times when interpreting dreams and visions.  Jesus was predicted.  The Book of Daniel has much prophecy in it about future kingdoms using symbolic language.  It is really interesting and cool to read and understand the prophecies.

That's interesting. You think Daniel was accurate despite getting everything wrong. How do you reconcile that?

His statue dream and his prophecy of the Lord are two of his greatest prophecies that came to light hundreds (I think around 600 years) in advance.

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That's your opinion.

The prophet predicted the future at times when interpreting dreams and visions.  Jesus was predicted.  The Book of Daniel has much prophecy in it about future kingdoms using symbolic language.  It is really interesting and cool to read and understand the prophecies.

Unfortunately for you, it's what students in Bible 101 learn. 
"Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft". 
Your "prophesy is omen reading. It was an abomination. 

You are nothing but one of many (dime a dozen) amateur Christian charlatans posting here, who know absolutely nothing about the subject you pretend to speak on. Go get yourself an education. 

The ancient role of a prophet in Hebrew culture was to interpret the words or will of their god to the people OF THEIR OWN DAY. NOT to predict the future. (That's Hollywood's idea of the role of a prophet). 

So you often hear fundies talking about "prophesy", and how various prophesies were a 'foretelling", or prediction of the future, and indeed they count them up as "proof" that Jebus or whatever HAS to be true, as the "prophecy" came true. 

In fact Leviticus forbade fortune telling and divination, so we know it was an abomination to even think in these terms for many/most centuries in Hebrew culture. However, with the rise of Apocalypticism, around the turn of the millennium, this changed somewhat, and is evidenced in many Christian writings, including the gospels, as they adopted the notions absent in ancient Israel, but coming into popular view with the Essenes. In terms of Hebrew culture, and the "telling of or prediction of" the future, was unknown, and forbidden, and not at ALL a view of the major prophets themselves. However in the the new view, certain "hidden meanings" or "pesherim" began to be looked for, in the practice of Midrash. The name for this is called "pesher", (or seeking a "hidden meaning"), which was not even known to the original speaker/writer, but only "revealed" later

to certain believers. Originally, the (plural) "pesherim" were only fully revealed to the Son of Righteousness, (the leader of the Essenes), and the idea was first found and fully understood after scholars read the Dead Sea scrolls, and was a sub category of "Midrash", (or study of the texts). 





http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsou...15650.html
Thus we see that "prophesy" as fortune telling as began to be practiced in Judaism around the First Century, (and picked up by Christians and the gospel writers), really was a very late invention and never a classical part of Hebrew scripture, or understanding, either interpretation, or intention, and certainly was not the function of the ancient office of "prophet", in Hebrew culture, who was to be a "mouthpiece" to the people of their own day, and not Madame Zelda with her crystal ball.

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Prophecy predicting the future through dreams and visions is used throughout the Bible, Old Testament and New Testament.

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At work.

Not amusing considering children in Africa are starving and yet the likes of him consumes food.

The plight of those suffering Africa and , truth be told  other ravaged places in the world are a far more complicated fix than the simple ramblings here might address.

So, slalloming back into the topic, an intetesting question to the OP is in regards to the DNA and all the things it does not support by way of the OP's assertions.

Some of which have already been pointed out.

I.E.

Lack of evidence for drastic genetic bottle-necks.

That mitochondrial Eve is dated many thousands of years apart from the genes of the so called Adam.

That the myriad evidences for theory of evolution indicate a 'Deeper' amount of time than the OP allots.

The list goes on.

Strange, nay almost cherry picked, seem the OP's limited fixations

How do you determine a genetic bottle neck for the flood?

How accurate do you think mitochondrial Eve and Y Chromosome Adam genetic dates actually are?  We are talking about ancestors of the human race that existed 50,000 - 450,000 years ago.

I believe in OEC and day-age interpretation which dates the universe as 13.8 billion years old and the Earth 4.54 billion years old.

[downbeatplumb]

How do you determine a genetic bottle neck for the flood?

How accurate do you think mitochondrial Eve and Y Chromosome Adam genetic dates actually are?  We are talking about ancestors of the human race that existed 50,000 - 450,000 years ago.

I believe in OEC and day-age interpretation which dates the universe as 13.8 billion years old and the Earth 4.54 billion years old.

But creationism doesn't tally with the way living things developed. We know the process that allows for the development of complex life and god is not part of the process at any stage.
What you believe is patently wrong.

[Peebothuhlu]

The plight of those suffering Africa and , truth be told  other ravaged places in the world are a far more complicated fix than the simple ramblings here might address.

So, slalloming back into the topic, an intetesting question to the OP is in regards to the DNA and all the things it does not support by way of the OP's assertions.

Some of which have already been pointed out.

I.E.

Lack of evidence for drastic genetic bottle-necks.

That mitochondrial Eve is dated many thousands of years apart from the genes of the so called Adam.

That the myriad evidences for theory of evolution indicate a 'Deeper' amount of time than the OP allots.

The list goes on.

Strange, nay almost cherry picked, seem the OP's limited fixations

How do you determine a genetic bottle neck for the flood?

How accurate do you think mitochondrial Eve and Y Chromosome Adam genetic dates actually are?  We are talking about ancestors of the human race that existed 50,000 - 450,000 years ago.

I believe in OEC and day-age interpretation which dates the universe as 13.8 billion years old and the Earth 4.54 billion years old.

 I stand corrected on your view of the age of reality. *Bows*

As for "How do you determine a genetic bottle neck" ?

On the technical aspects I must deffer to other possible forum members more knowledgable than I.

My point is that human genetics do NOT show any sort of hall marks of a genetic bottle neck where the entire human genome was reducde to around a dozen people. A species that I understand to have suffered a serious genetic bottle neck is the African Cheeta. Reading how such a problem effects said animals should make for interesting reading.

By all counts (I think it was the forum member Mathilda?) who pointed out that for a populatiopn to continue to survive a minimum of about 10, 00 indiviuals have to survive and be able to then increase the population numbers.

Not at work.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

  I think ...

Would that you could.