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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:20 pm
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(November 24, 2018 at 11:09 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 24, 2018 at 11:01 pm)Everena Wrote: And by that you mean you were completely wrong on all counts again. Yes, and thanks for playing.
All counts?
Your link is from a pop-science site that reviewed Penrose and Hameroff's review. It's doubly digested with no dissenting view. That's the equivalent of the National Enquirer.
Even there title was: "Discovery of quantum vibrations in 'microtubules' inside brain neurons supports controversial theory of consciousness" Note the quotes around microtubules and the word controversial.
Go find some real science. No, it sure isn't. They publish what has happened in science recently. You are just not willing to face facts so you make up bullshit. Only your fellow atheists are dumb enough to believe crap like that.
(November 24, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:Science only attempts to discover and understand how an already existing and operating universe works.
You keep repeating this crap.
Science researches HOW things happen, and HOW they CAME TO BE in the state they are. ALL of evolution studies this.
You simple-minded nonsense is embarrassing yourself.
You never really took ANY science, did you.
Only in high school and college and when I studied it independently. You never took any school at all, did you?
(November 24, 2018 at 11:18 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 24, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You keep repeating this crap.
Science researches HOW things happen, and HOW they CAME TO BE in the state they are. ALL of evolution studies this.
You simple-minded nonsense is embarrassing yourself.
You never really took ANY science, did you.
Not just that, she's fallen to copy-N-pasta of her own previously discredited posts.
What are you pretending to have discredited? Be specific.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:32 pm
Quote:Only in high school and college and when I studied it independently.
Oh, from Ken Ham ?
Still WAITING .... who proposed "the theory" that consciousness is received.
Still WAITING .... who is studying Penrose's theory at MIT.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:32 pm
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(November 24, 2018 at 11:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:Additonally, why would we even have a sex drive or a will to live or an immune system? Just because of nothing and for no reason? How would nothingness care if our species survived?
Survival sweetie. You fundamentally know NOTHING about how evolution works
Holy shit. She's back to the "tasty plants".
LOL
Sweetie?
I don’t know about you, but for me, even factoring out her delusions, ignorances, dishonesties, and hubris, she would still comfortably be in the top three of the most overbearing, rude, tactless, argumentative, fanatical, graceless, humorless, arrogant, generally comprehensively repugnant personalities I’ve ever encountered in any discussion forum.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:33 pm
(November 24, 2018 at 11:18 pm)Everena Wrote: That is just a list of people who have worked in neuroscience. The argument is about the decades they spent ignoring the subject of consciousness (which I already proved to you a lot of posts ago) Why you think this means anything I do not know. You are not even ever paying attention to what we are even discussing.
Well, there's the Journal of Neuroscience. It's been publishing on this topic for nearly half a century. Probably a few dozen similar journals that couldn't get that name.
Here's a link to the Google Scholar search for "Neural Correlates Consciousness" that calls bullshit on your assertion. Here's a lovely publication called " Towards a neurobiological theory of consciousness" from 1990.
But please, keep telling us how nobody else was working on this subject. It gets funnier with every retelling.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:34 pm
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(November 24, 2018 at 11:09 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 24, 2018 at 11:01 pm)Everena Wrote: And by that you mean you were completely wrong on all counts again. Yes, and thanks for playing.
All counts?
Your link is from a pop-science site that reviewed Penrose and Hameroff's review. It's doubly digested with no dissenting view. That's the equivalent of the National Enquirer.
Even there title was: "Discovery of quantum vibrations in 'microtubules' inside brain neurons supports controversial theory of consciousness" Note the quotes around microtubules and the word controversial.
Go find some real science.
It's real science. You just don't like that it doesn't agree with your twisted illogical worldview so you pretend it's not. Pathetic.
(November 24, 2018 at 11:33 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 24, 2018 at 11:18 pm)Everena Wrote: That is just a list of people who have worked in neuroscience. The argument is about the decades they spent ignoring the subject of consciousness (which I already proved to you a lot of posts ago) Why you think this means anything I do not know. You are not even ever paying attention to what we are even discussing.
Well, there's the Journal of Neuroscience. It's been publishing on this topic for nearly half a century. Probably a few dozen similar journals that couldn't get that name.
Here's a link to the Google Scholar search for "Neural Correlates Consciousness" that calls bullshit on your assertion. Here's a lovely publication called "Towards a neurobiological theory of consciousness" from 1990.
But please, keep telling us how nobody else was working on this subject. It gets funnier with every retelling. Neurobiology is not neuroscience
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:36 pm
Quote:Only your fellow atheists are dumb enough to believe crap like that.
Penrose is an atheist. You seem to keep forgetting that.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:38 pm
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(November 24, 2018 at 11:36 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:Only your fellow atheists are dumb enough to believe crap like that.
Penrose is an atheist. You seem to keep forgetting that.
He doesn't believe in God but he does believe we have a soul and eternal life.
(November 24, 2018 at 11:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:Additonally, why would we even have a sex drive or a will to live or an immune system? Just because of nothing and for no reason? How would nothingness care if our species survived?
Survival sweetie. You fundamentally know NOTHING about how evolution works
Holy shit. She's back to the "tasty plants".
LOL
Evolution is a process that occured after life began, NOT a first cause. Grip reality.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:41 pm
Quote:Additonally, why would we even have a sex drive or a will to live or an immune system? Just because of nothing and for no reason? How would nothingness care if our species survived?
Sexual reproduction and immune systems evolved LONG before there was anything that even resembled homo sapiens.
I thought you said you studied science.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:43 pm
(November 24, 2018 at 11:34 pm)Everena Wrote: (November 24, 2018 at 11:09 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: All counts?
Your link is from a pop-science site that reviewed Penrose and Hameroff's review. It's doubly digested with no dissenting view. That's the equivalent of the National Enquirer.
Even there title was: "Discovery of quantum vibrations in 'microtubules' inside brain neurons supports controversial theory of consciousness" Note the quotes around microtubules and the word controversial.
Go find some real science.
It's real science. You just don't like that it doesn't agree with your twisted illogical worldview so you pretend it's not. Pathetic. Ooh! Call me "Sad" next!
No peer-review equals pop-sci rubbish. At least quote the scientific papers that your rubbish article cites. Seriously, is it that hard?
Quote: (November 24, 2018 at 11:33 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Well, there's the Journal of Neuroscience. It's been publishing on this topic for nearly half a century. Probably a few dozen similar journals that couldn't get that name.
Here's a link to the Google Scholar search for "Neural Correlates Consciousness" that calls bullshit on your assertion. Here's a lovely publication called "Towards a neurobiological theory of consciousness" from 1990.
But please, keep telling us how nobody else was working on this subject. It gets funnier with every retelling.
Neurobiology is not neuroscience
Seriously?!? Kindly demonstrate.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 24, 2018 at 11:50 pm
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(November 24, 2018 at 11:43 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: (November 24, 2018 at 11:34 pm)Everena Wrote: It's real science. You just don't like that it doesn't agree with your twisted illogical worldview so you pretend it's not. Pathetic. Ooh! Call me "Sad" next!
No peer-review equals pop-sci rubbish. At least quote the scientific papers that your rubbish article cites. Seriously, is it that hard?
Quote:Neurobiology is not neuroscience
Seriously?!? Kindly demonstrate. Sure, here's an article from a neuroscientist who will explain it to you https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-differ...e-subjects
(November 24, 2018 at 11:34 pm)Everena Wrote: It's real science. You just don't like that it doesn't agree with your twisted illogical worldview so you pretend it's not. Pathetic. (November 24, 2018 at 11:43 pm)Paleophyte Wrote: Ooh! Call me "Sad" next!
No peer-review equals pop-sci rubbish. At least quote the scientific papers that your rubbish article cites. Seriously, is it that hard?
Everena: They all have citations and links to the scientific journals they got their information from.
(November 24, 2018 at 11:41 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Quote:Additonally, why would we even have a sex drive or a will to live or an immune system? Just because of nothing and for no reason? How would nothingness care if our species survived?
Sexual reproduction and immune systems evolved LONG before there was anything that even resembled homo sapiens.
I thought you said you studied science.
And animals had sex drives and immune systems and the will to live long before that too genius.
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