DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Everena]

Volcanoes had to be here to form land masses.

No they didn't. This is God Allmighty we're talking about. He don't need no stinking volcanoes! He can just say "Let there be land!" and the continents say "Yes Sir, God Sir! How much land would you like?"

No one but atheists believe in this very warped version of god. There is no god like the one you all have made up. The actual God is a real conscious being with divine intelligence.
And continents don't talk, just like big rocks don't create universes. Do I have to teach you everything? God is not a man, so get over it. Even the Christians websites explain that the male pronoun was just used because this an actual being we are talking about, not an it.The planet was created in the way planets are created. Since you can't create one, I don't think you should judging God's way of doing it.

"In most monotheistic religions, one cannot apply a gender to God in the usual sense, as God's attributes cannot be compared to those of any other being. Thus, the idea of a "divine gender" is ultimately considered an analogy, used by humans in order to better relate to the concept of God, with no sexual connotation.
Although God is an intangible spirit in many religions and therefore is thought to have no gender, debate over their "actual" sex nevertheless has passionately raged in recent decades. The preponderance of references to God in both the Old and New Testaments are in the context of a masculine reference, often "Father". However, there are a significant number of feminine allegorical references to God, most often in some maternal role.

Theodicy a la "Death by volcano or fire probably is not as horrible as it sounds." Wow. Just Wow.

Don't burn anyone to death or choose that as your way to die if you really think so.

I don't think very many people get eaten by predators

Any is still suffering.

Don't intentionally cause suffering and you won't suffer.

And what about the bunny rabbits? Nom-nom-nom goes mister fox, gnawing on those fluffy bunnies.

Yeah, don't try to make rabbits sound all sweet and innocent. Animals kill and eat each other all the time. Scary.

And that reason rhymes with "malevolent". See, this is God we're talking about.

No, this is people we are talking about. This is not God's planet or God's challenge. This planet was created for us, not for God. You don't want to suffer, don't cause any suffering to others and you won't. It is as simple as that.

Omnipotent
Doesn't need to resort to horrific punishment to make you a better person.

Suffering only the pain that you have intentionally caused to others is in no way horrific punishment. It is just eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth.
Perfect justice for the victims of your wrath.

Not that beating your kids helps them grow up to be well-adjusted.

God is not beating anyone. People are intentionally causing pain, and then suffering only the pain they have intentionally caused to others. How many times do I have to explain this to you? Jesus explains it like 10 times in the NT. OT God explains it over and over. Hindus and Buddhists know it. Muslims live by it. That's like 5 billion people who have no problem understanding perfect justice. Try to wrap your head around it.

So if even we mortals know that this is not merely needless, not merely senseless, but actually counter-productive suffering then God's either the biggest incompetent or the biggest bastard in the history of history.

Only in your warped version of God and reality. People learn to stop hurting others by suffering through the pain they have caused. Write it down perhaps. There is a great reward once we all become better people. Imagine the most perfect life you could ever have and then some.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

  Awe......

So you don't like Everena?

Sorry to hear.

Of course I like Everena.  She did a great job taking it to you atheists in my opinion.

But you just posted that other religions/theologies are wrong.

Unless you are converting to the worship of the Uber-energy ball that issues 'Karma' and 'Reincarnation'?

[CDF47]

A lesson is to prevent something bad from reoccurring or is to teach why things are the way they are.

And God Allmighty couldn't come up with a better way to write his lesson book than mass extinction? Are you angling for incompetent, malevolent, or both?

This is the way He chose.

[Paleophyte]

LOL< so god annihilated nearly everything on earth to teach you a lesson?  Shame you still haven't learned it.  

Imma try that on my kid next time, though..I'll shoot all his pets and strangle every kitten I can reach..see what he learns from that.  I;m willing to bet it;s more than you have..particulrly since, as we've established, my kids are required to know more about pretty much everything than you've managed to display in this thread.

No, simply beating the kids and killing their pets isn't enough to terrorize them into being moral. You have to kill the neighbours and where their faces as skinmasks.

[CDF47]

A lesson is to prevent something bad from reoccurring or is to teach why things are the way they are.

So again all those innocent creatures needed to suffer because a group did something and the only way your holy psychopath could think up to teach said lesson is to hurt all innocent creatures. That's simply sadistic .

It's due to the fall of man and disobedience to God.  Man listened to the devil rather than God.  God foreknew this would happen.

[Paleophyte]

LOL< so god annihilated nearly everything on earth to teach you a lesson?  Shame you still haven't learned it.  

Imma try that on my kid next time, though..I'll shoot all his pets and strangle every kitten I can reach..see what he learns from that.

God already knew man would fall when He created dinosaurs to die.

What part of "Created to die" speaks to you of grace?

[The Grand Nudger]

LOL< so god annihilated nearly everything on earth to teach you a lesson?  Shame you still haven't learned it.  

Imma try that on my kid next time, though..I'll shoot all his pets and strangle every kitten I can reach..see what he learns from that.  I;m willing to bet it;s more than you have..particulrly since, as we've established, my kids are required to know more about pretty much everything than you've managed to display in this thread.

No, simply beating the kids and killing their pets isn't enough to terrorize them into being moral. You have to kill the neighbours and where their faces as skinmasks.

I always forget about the people suits!  I'll have to try and remember it going forward.

The story just gets dumber by the post. God "foreknew" that man would disobey him, so he flew into a hissy fit and smoked a bunch of lizards. What a tool. No wonder his best angels told him to get bent.

[CDF47]

It is all part of the lesson to man.  We are saved by the grace of God.

Have you noticed a certain lack of grace in all this senseless suffering?

No, because souls are saved eternally.

[Everena]

Your body goes unconscious at a certain level of pain, so death by volcano or fire probably is not as horrible as it sounds.

And yeah, we know from the survivors that dying by volcano or fire are pretty gruesome ways to go. It can be over quick if you take a direct hit from a pyroclastic flow, but barring that sort of "luck" you're in for a lingering death.

You only suffer to a certain extent and then you go unconscious from the pain. I told you- it happened to me when my appendix ruptured.

[Amarok]

This is the way He chose

That's not a justification 

It's due to the fall of man and disobedience to God.  Man listened to the devil rather than God.  God foreknew this would happen.

So you did nothing to try prevent this and as a result suffering 

No, because souls are saved eternally.

Torturing someone temporarily is not justified because they live forever