DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[CDF47]

No, it's not.  He is not the first to try to paint Christianity as a myth and I am sure he will not be the last.

Who the fuck said anything about christianity being a myth?  Talk about a subconscious slip, lol.  At least we know what made you react the way you did, now.

Why would the author of jewish magic book, discussing the events of the maccabean revolt in an addendum to 6th century folklore..... getting something wrong...... make your religion, which is not judaism, a myth?

That is not true.

[The Grand Nudger]

This is the terminus of a trend of anti-intellectualism in christian faith.  People who know so little and have such a tenuous grasp on the object of their religious fixation that their faith becomes ludicrously brittle and increasingly marginalized.

[Angrboda]

[The Grand Nudger]

Who the fuck said anything about christianity being a myth?  Talk about a subconscious slip, lol.  At least we know what made you react the way you did, now.

Why would the author of jewish magic book, discussing the events of the maccabean revolt in an addendum to 6th century folklore..... getting something wrong...... make your religion, which is not judaism, a myth?

That is not true.

What, CDF, what isn't true? That you had an inexplicable reaction to the mundane observations of seminary scholarship? That this reaction was only made explicable by your later stating a misapprehension about what had been said? That the narrator of the"prophetic" bits of daniel wasn't cheifly concerned with the maccabean revolt? That the narrator made understandable mistakes with respect to a past he was unaware of and a future he would not see? That some random jewish narrator getting something wrong wouldn't make your religion, which is not judaism, a myth?

What....? Are you capable of articulating exactly the thing you object to, or would you like to run with "The thing no one said is not true!"................

[Peebothuhlu]

*Cough* He doesn't need to use any paint at all...

Christianity stands up there along side the rest/best of them.

I can see it now.

Zeus, Yahwey and Odin standing on their cloud, looking down and comparing where their thrown lighting bolts landed (Well.. Odin and Thor).



At least Pantheism doesn't have a "Problem of Evil.' Since there are so many dieties to which to appoint the blame for when things go bad.

With monotheism... You've kind of got a problem when that time comes around.

Evil exists based on the devil's rebellion to God.  That is when the knowledge of good and evil must have been known to someone other than God.

*Nods* Yeah, I get that about your system.

The problem you have is that:

1) Your diety is the biggest of all things. It's the creator of all things. It's the knower of all things.

2) This leads to the issue of your diety first knowing what it's going to do. Do said things anyway. Said created things then running off and doing the things they were created to do.

So... you diety created the evil AND lets it run around doing its evil things.

Is a problem, don't cha think?

Heck, pretty sure the Euthyphro's dilema sums up your problem. Or the more, modern, parahprasing at least.

At least with Odin... they can blame Loki being micheivieous and things going all ploin shaped from there. Same with most other pantheons. All the good diety's are runnning around trying to stop/thwart the evil dietys. Well... maybe the other way around, YMMV.

Not at work.

[The Grand Nudger]

At least with Odin... they can blame Loki being micheivieous and things going all ploin shaped from there. 

Nope.  It was always going to happen that way.  Neither Odin nor Loki were capable of changing their fates.  Odin tried, gave up alot for it...but the final result was a comment on the futility of the endeavor, as all of his efforts simply built to the end that by needs must come. The worst thing that Loki ever did was an honest accident. Baldur was supposed to be immortal. From that point onward it was a downward spiral for him..the consequences of a primal animus, beyond any persons control, having laid just beneath the surface since the ice and the mist stretched forth their hands becoming the prelude to the end.

Just a fun aside.

[Amarok]

Evil exists based on the devil's rebellion to God. 

Nope it exist because your god is a clown 

That is when the knowledge of good and evil must have been known to someone other than God.

Or not

[T0 Th3 M4X]

When you insult someone, it is the reflection of your state of mind, not the other person's.

Happy people project happiness, confident people project confidence, distressed people project stress, and miserable people project misery.  Which is why there's an old saying that "misery loves company."

I am somebody, you are somebody, every life has meaning.  If experience means nothing, then why experience anything?   You can define your life by numbness, but I choose not to live mine that way.  If all I ever had hope of becoming was worm food, I would make sure that I would be the best seasoned food those worms every chowed down on when that day comes.

You must be pretty full of yourself to regard those as insults.

Your opinion.

[Peebothuhlu]

At least with Odin... they can blame Loki being micheivieous and things going all ploin shaped from there. 

Nope.  It was always going to happen that way.  Neither Odin nor Loki were capable of changing their fates.  Odin tried, gave up alot for it...but the final result was a comment on the futility of the endeavor, as all of his efforts simply built to the end that by needs must come.  The worst thing that Loki ever did was an honest accident.  Baldur was supposed to be immortal.  Just a fun aside.

I thought the game "King's table" (Remember it being called 'Raven' something as well) was meant to show that Odin was/kind'a did find a way to 'cheat' out of Ragnarok?

*Shrugs* Ah well, ya learn sumit every day. It's not the myth system I was brought up in. Only learned about sporadically over time.

Chhers!

Not at work.

[The Grand Nudger]

I thought the game "King's table" (Remember it being called 'Raven' something as well) was meant to show that Odin was/kind'a did find a way to 'cheat' out of Ragnarok?

*Shrugs* Ah well, ya learn sumit every day. It's not the myth system I was brought up in. Only learned about sporadically over time.

Chhers!

Not at work.

Tafl, I hadn't heard of any narrative connection between it and ideas of cheating fate...but I'd love it if you ever found a source for it.