DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[The Grand Nudger]

That argument was settled hundreds of pages ago.

In truth, it was settled before you arrived.

[CDF47]

Somebody please take this thread out to a cross-roads and bury it face down with a stake through its heart.

Wont suffice: you need to chop the head off and put garlic in its mouth, then bury it in a silver coffin with a giant cross on the lid, then sprinkle it with holy water.

Someone else would just continue to state the facts.

[The Grand Nudger]

You mean that someone else would come along and reassert the familiar creationist arglebargle?  Yes, they would, you're just such a someone in a long line of someones.

Hopefully, having this thread as a sink will give us a place to store the cabbages.

[CDF47]

One problem with intelligent design is that it fails to explain anything about the alleged designer.

That's not the purpose of ID.  They purposely do not get into that.  They focus on the science which points to a Creator.

And yet all you have is repeatedly saying that because DNA is complex then it must have been designed.
There are testable ideas of what could have led to DNA without the need for a designer. Work is being done on these and although they aren't proven they do have the benefit of being fully fleshed out ideas with some evidence that agrees they are possible.
Whereas the "designer" proposal has no idea how the designer went about not only designing but implementing its design and then you have the additional problem of explaining the designer.
Let me put it bluntly.
There is zero science that points to a creator.

The information is not just complex, it is functional.  There is a Designer, 100 percent.

[Anomalocaris]

Your Christian bullshit is but some of the more loathsome parts of the oldest, vilest, most self serving, most deceitful, most completely founded and dependent upon ignorance and gullibility, and the most thoroughly discredited “system” and “establishment” still yet afflicting the human society,  you contemptible fanatical ignorant ass hat.

Rather than attack my religion, why not try to argue the facts that I presented?

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That's one way to put it...

I'd just say that he's blinded by his religious and engineering bias into attributing a divine design where none is likely to be.

It's not an engineering and religious bias.  I was a skeptic before.  There is engineering inside the cell.

There you go yet again.   No.  Shut the fuck up.  We’ve already heard this exact same thing in its same idiotic entirety from you many times too many 9999 posts ago.

You’ve presented no facts, only claims which you dearly wish could be passed off as facts before the unwary.  We’ve spent close to half of this 10000+ thread telling you your wish is idiotic and beneath consideration.   You keep disrespecting each and every one of us by not changing the topic, not changing your method, and keep trying to pass off the exact same worthless claims as facts in the very same crudest possible manner.

You disrespect us because of your religion, so we will disrespect both you and your religion. Now go the fuck away.

[The Grand Nudger]

100%...? That's amazing. Show your math.

[CDF47]

That argument was settled hundreds of pages ago.

In truth, it was settled before you arrived.

Yes, the debate was over before I even arrived.  I agree with that.

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You mean that someone else would come along and reassert the familiar creationist arglebargle?  Yes, they would, you're just such a someone in a long line of someones.

Hopefully, having this thread as a sink will give us a place to store the cabbages.

I agree, there are many someones.

[LadyForCamus]

Why, yes it does.  You leave your house every day, don’t you? You cook? Use your phone? Drive to work or school? Go to the doctor when you’re sick? Buy a stool softener at CVS if you’re constipated? Guess what? You trust mainstream scientific research, whether you like it or not.


Why am I so angry?  I don’t know, CDF.  It might have something to do with the upwards of 1500 pages of the pure, and reeking horse shit you’ve smeared all over this forum over the course of several months.  It might be that. It might also be PMS.  But I think...mostly the former.

I am a bit eery of the system.  I still live my life in society and, yes, have to trust certain aspects of it to survive.

So, by what method do you determine which science is trustworthy and which isn’t?  Let me guess: if it enables you to live a comfortable, first world life with all its perks it’s good science, and if it disagrees with your world view, it’s a global conspiracy to hide the truth of Christianity? Seems legit.

I understand you hate this thread but you make your attacks personal so maybe it is PMS, LOL.  For what it is worth, I didn't intend to offend you with my posts.

I’m not offended; I’m annoyed.  There’s a difference.

[CDF47]

Rather than attack my religion, why not try to argue the facts that I presented?

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It's not an engineering and religious bias.  I was a skeptic before.  There is engineering inside the cell.

You’ve presented no facts, only claims which you dearly wish could be passed off as facts before the unwary.  We’ve spent close to half of this 10000+ thread telling you your wish is idiotic and beneath consideration.   You keep disrespecting each and every one of us by keep trying to pass off the same worthless claims as facts in the same crude manner.

How is my manner crude? I just presented an argument which you disagree with.  I know this is an emotional topic but no reason to get bent out of shape over my posts.

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100%...?  That's amazing.  Show your math.

1 + 1 = 2....complex and functional information prove design.

[The Grand Nudger]

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100%...?  That's amazing.  Show your math.

1 + 1 = 2....complex and functional information prove design.

One plus one, equals two, therefore god exists.....?

I think you may have missed a step.

Your manner is crude for it's grating and futile ignorance. If you want to be taken seriously, then you need to take yourself and your intended audience seriously. That won't actually help you to prove ID, because ID is trash and that's a known known.

It will improve peoples perception of you, and the quality of your interactions here.