To theists- A logical insight into Atheism

[ignoramus]

Obviously we are the evidence Huggy. Get it? Yes?

[Amarok]

Strawman

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Huggy does realize that Abiogenesis isn't atheism ? And no Huggy your ignorance of biochemistry does not mean there is no evidence of Abiogenesis. And even if it was an absurd view it does not make your view any less a proposition of magic .So once again your attempted appeal to hypocrisy and lame virtue point scoring fails . Someone else's bad idea's doesn't validate yours .

[vorlon13]

Huggy is holding the door open (whether he realizes it or not) for each Mormon to eventually be God of their own planet, their being no way to discern his brand of theism from theirs.

And all the other tens of thousands of schisms . . . .

[Whateverist]

You obviously don't get my point.

If you claim that life began through abiogenesis, THEN YOU ARE CLEARLY NOT SAYING YOU DONT KNOW HOW LIFE BEGAN.



My point is how can you even claim abiogenesis in the first place when there is not one shred of evidence?

THIEST: Life began therefore God

ATHEIST: Life exists so therefore abiogenesis

Again how are you any different from a so-called fundie?

When one assumes the origins of life were abiogenic that does NOT constitute a claim to know how life formed.

But of corse when you claim to know God did it you’re just demonstrating you don’t get the difference between knowing how something happened and a bald assumption. If you can’t break down the steps by which God did it then you don’t know shit. You just assume it the same way I assume He didn’t when I say it came about abiogenically.

[Simon Moon]

Oh, and speaking of woo straw men.

There, fixed that for you.

I believe life had a creator, I have no idea of the process.

You believe live created itself, you have no idea of the process.

If one is woo then they are both woo.

Looks like were in the same woo boat buddy.

No, we believe that natural processes (physics, chemistry, and the rules that they obey) caused life to come into existence.

There is no woo involved in the position of current science.

[Edwardo Piet]

I personally do not weight beliefs in the black-and-white way as the OP. With respect to plausibility and reasonableness, there are differences of degree between various beliefs.

You have a point, we could rate them most to least plausible, though mileage might vary:

Astrology
Antivaxxers
Palm reading
Mormons
Scientologists
Supernatural (as described in the holy books)
Divine miracles (as described in the holy books)
Flatearthers

I think Mormons should definitely be below the two I have bolded.

[Amarok]

My point is how can you even claim abiogenesis in the first place when there is not one shred of evidence?

THIEST: Life began therefore God

ATHEIST: I don't accept the existence of god . And my atheism has nothing to with were life came from as atheism has nothing to do with such questions  . I accept abiogenesis as a viable scientific  concept wholly aside my lack of belief in god . Abiogenesis is not an atheist creation myth or anything like it . 

Again how are you any different from a so-called fundie?

There fixed that

[Huggy Bear]

Huggy does realize that Abiogenesis isn't atheism ? And no Huggy your ignorance of biochemistry does not mean there is no evidence of Abiogenesis. And even if it was an absurd view it does not make your view any less a proposition of magic .So once again your attempted appeal to hypocrisy and lame virtue point scoring fails . Someone else's bad idea's doesn't validate yours .

I'm not speaking to Atheism, I'm speaking to the OP and 99% of the atheists on this forum who accept abiogenesis as a plausible explanation of how life began.

Biochemistry has nothing to do with abiogenesis, since it posits that life arose from non-life, so if anyone of you believe there is proof that life arose from non-life, present it.

[Minimalist]

I'm not speaking to Atheism, I'm speaking to the OP and 99% of the atheists on this forum who accept abiogenesis as a plausible explanation of how life began.

Compared to your fucking fairy tale version it is a virtual certainty.  Some day, if you ever find the time during your apologetic driveling, you might try to demonstrate how your fucking invisible sky-daddy is real.  I doubt that you can do it but at least you would be moving towards meeting your burden of proof.

[ignoramus]

Min, it's amazing how they believe that the God of the bible can even possibly exist!

An advanced alien, sure, but advanced aliens don't dish out extra lives when you die.
Which of course begs the question ...why bother then