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Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?

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Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?
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RE: Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?
May 14, 2018 at 1:00 pm
On a less dramatic level I've experienced this a few times in my life to know it helps to go through shit to be more appreciative and happy when you're in the same position as someone who hasn't gone through shit to get to the same position.


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RE: Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?
May 14, 2018 at 3:23 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 12:12 am)ignoramus Wrote: Beccs nearly dies in a motorbike crash and what does she get later in life? A fucking Harley! lol!

I'd hate to think what mum and dad think of your life choices!

Yeah, that daughter of ours, she's just stupid and won't amount to anything!

So then she proceeds to by a v8 muscle car to rub the salt in a little more... hehehe

And parachuting ...and .....

Actually I bought a Honda Firestorm immediately afterwards. The accident was caused by a moron running a red light in a ute.

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RE: Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?
May 14, 2018 at 6:13 pm (This post was last modified: May 14, 2018 at 6:14 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 13, 2018 at 8:09 pm)Aegon Wrote: Do you think it is necessary for one to go through very bad times in order to make the most out of the good?

As someone who many years ago attempted suicide and has decided ever since to never do it again, to commit fully in the face of everything except for unbearable suffering, I would say yes. I've never wanted to keep on living so much since wanting to never live again. Since being at the bottom it's, overall, only ever been up. I love my life.
(May 13, 2018 at 8:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Do homeless veterans with PTSD appreciate living?

Some of them perhaps.
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RE: Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?
May 14, 2018 at 7:08 pm
I think for it to matter you have to be capable of happiness in the first place.
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RE: Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?
May 14, 2018 at 7:10 pm
(May 13, 2018 at 8:09 pm)Aegon Wrote: I've noticed that ever since my transplant I have been very optimistic and motivated (or perhaps driven is an even better word.) My personality practically did a 180, because it reminded me of the fragility of life and the fact that I can't waste any time I might have. I didn't have these inclinations before my kidneys failed, to be honest. Do you think it is necessary for one to go through very bad times in order to make the most out of the good?

I would say not necessary, but it can often wake us up.
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RE: Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?
May 14, 2018 at 8:10 pm (This post was last modified: May 14, 2018 at 8:10 pm by ignoramus.)
(May 14, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I think for it to matter you have to be capable of happiness in the first place.

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RE: Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?
May 14, 2018 at 8:22 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 8:10 pm)ignoramus Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I think for it to matter you have to be capable of happiness in the first place.

Learning to not give a fuck from a young age is an Australian specialty... Shy

It took me a lifetime to learn this one, and its corollary, patience. Though my patience is in short supply on some days.
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RE: Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living?
May 14, 2018 at 8:34 pm
(May 14, 2018 at 8:10 pm)ignoramus Wrote:
(May 14, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I think for it to matter you have to be capable of happiness in the first place.

Learning to not give a fuck from a young age is an Australian specialty... Shy

Yeah.

I stopped giving a fuck before I was conceived.

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