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The system of educaction has to be changed
#11
RE: The system of educaction has to be changed
Relax and become one with the edumacation.
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#12
RE: The system of educaction has to be changed
I have an electrical engineering degree and I can confirm there are a lot of unnecessary sections. While my field was power engineering (high voltage substations and transmission lines). I had to do electronics too which was a pain.
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#13
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On average, people change professions 8 times throughout the course of their working lives. Higher education is meant to prepare you for life, not just a career. Only being able to think and operate within the idiom of your specialty will not provide you with the tools you need to live a successful and meaning filled life. That requires teaching you how to think. Something you won't learn by cloistering yourself within your specialty.
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#14
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Hey, if you think that sucks. Try being in a system that wants you to do "research" for every type of undergrad diploma.
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#15
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(May 18, 2018 at 4:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I study electrical engineering, and I am forced to take so many classes that I dislike.

It won't hurt you to read a book now and then outside of your professed specialty.  I'm not sure what you are complaining about.

By classes I dont like I mean classes within my specialty, such as programming in assemble language. Hate that shit. 

And in fact I do read about history, etc... My complain is about the fact that since I hate that kind of class, I would never work doing that. So it is time wasted.
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#16
RE: The system of educaction has to be changed
One thing education provides is training in delivering a product we don't want to work on, on schedule. That is actually going to be most of your life's work. I personally think that a well-rounded education is a good thing. Good luck changing the direction of that juggernaut.
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#17
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People don't generally stroll on out of Plato's cave. Sometimes they have to be dragged. It's an unpleasant experience on the whole, but those who make it out are thankful once they clear the threshold. The gift of knowledge is the greatest gift there is. Try not to take it for granted.
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#18
RE: The system of educaction has to be changed
(May 18, 2018 at 3:47 pm)Macoleco Wrote: As a university student I have been thinking that it is necessary to change the education system. For the sake of the quality of life and the progress of humanity.

I study electrical engineering, and I am forced to take so many classes that I dislike. This means I have to spend time studying something I dislike, instead of spending time on something I like. This not only would benefit me, but society as a whole since it can use whatever I create or develope. 

The way the system is created, "step by step", means that you need to do a lot of undesired things to move on to the next step. For example, I want to study bioengineering, which is the reason I study electrical engineering. But I need to get the degree first, and for this I must take classes I dislike. Besides this, the system punishes me if my performance is low. Meaning that my chances to study bioengineering diminish, since the only way I can do it is by getting a scholarship (My country does not have this speciality and I dont have the money to study abroad by myself). This means I have to push through hell to finally study what I want. And this benefits no one (except transnational companies such as Intel, or HP who would benefit from a 3rd world engineer who will work for less money compared to a USA engineer) . 

Now, I believe that a system is required. Basic mathematics should be taught regardless of what you want to study. Same with any other discipline such as physics, etc. But there should be a breaking point in which you have more freedom. For example, you dont want to study calculus in several variables just yet. When you finally hit a wall and need to understand it, you should have several paths: 1. Study by yourself with books. We should teach people to study by themselves and stop depending on teachers. 2. Learn from friends. 3. Take a class at university with a teacher.

At the end of the day, even if you take a class about X topic, when you finally need it, you will have to repass it again. So I see no point on forcing us through this bullshit system. Who benefits from this..?

I never understood the American university system where you have to take random classes unrelated to your degree in order to pass. I was educated in the UK, and my Computer Science degree had classes that were all to do with Computer Science. Given that students are paying the university for the degree, it makes little sense to force them to take classes that don't contribute to the degree subject matter.
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(May 18, 2018 at 7:18 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: People don't generally stroll on out of Plato's cave. Sometimes they have to be dragged. It's an unpleasant experience on the whole, but those who make it out are thankful once they clear the threshold. The gift of knowledge is the greatest gift there is. Try not to take it for granted.

Except for philosophy, P-U.
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#20
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My all time fav of Dilbert and his engineering buddies.

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