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RE: College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!
May 20, 2018 at 7:50 pm
(May 20, 2018 at 7:32 pm)Kit Wrote: Not "education is stupid".
More like "higher education is not as beneficial as educators make it out to be".
Not always. If you want to be a mechanic, there's no reason to go to college. If you want to fix computers, same. These jobs are necessary and those who are interested should pursue those avenues.
But to pretend that getting a college degree is not the safest option is ludicrous. If you want to be above the median income level, almost every job you can get requires at least a Bachelor's degree. If you don't know what you want to do, take a couple of years off and try and figure it out. But, odds are, if you want to do something that makes a bit of money, then you're going to have to go to college.
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RE: College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!
May 20, 2018 at 7:51 pm
I think debt basically rules out the benefits of a college education.
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RE: College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!
May 20, 2018 at 7:53 pm
As with anything, it depends on what you study.
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RE: College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!
May 20, 2018 at 7:53 pm
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May 20, 2018 at 7:59 pm
Yes, the comics outweigh the real life shit.
My college debt is $23k.
I make $75k a year in an entry level job.
So not worth it.
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RE: College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!
May 20, 2018 at 8:02 pm
(May 20, 2018 at 7:59 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Yes, the comics outweigh the real life shit.
My college debt is $23k.
I make $75k a year in an entry level job.
So not worth it.
I have no student loans and make a shit ton of money.
I haven't been unemployed since graduating and I have turned down a job that would nearly triple what I make now.
As I said, it depends what you study and what's in demand at the time.
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RE: College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!
May 20, 2018 at 8:18 pm
Nobody know, the trouble I see... ...
I was poor as piss on a plate as a kid. I joined the US Navy, and then after that went to university with the GI Bill as supplemental income. I worked as a mechanic most of the way through school. It took me 6.5 years for a B Sc degree, as I supported myself. I graduated with no debt, as a result. If I had continued working as a mechanic, I would have made about the same money, in retrospect. But I had a job that was mostly clean indoor work and minimal heavy lifting.
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RE: College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!
May 20, 2018 at 8:20 pm
(May 20, 2018 at 8:18 pm)Fireball Wrote: Nobody know, the trouble I see... ...
I was poor as piss on a plate as a kid. I joined the US Navy, and then after that went to university with the GI Bill as supplemental income. I worked as a mechanic most of the way through school. It took me 6.5 years for a B Sc degree, as I supported myself. I graduated with no debt, as a result. If I had continued working as a mechanic, I would have made about the same money, in retrospect. But I had a job that was mostly clean indoor work and minimal heavy lifting.
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RE: College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!
May 20, 2018 at 8:25 pm
(May 20, 2018 at 7:51 pm)Kit Wrote: I think debt basically rules out the benefits of a college education.
If you don't have a degree, your career is most likely capped at a pretty low level. But that's fine for people who's likely endgame was Assistant Manager at Wendy's. You are right that those people being shuffled off to a university, when they would be better off going to community college or a technical school is a giant scam, and that level of debt probably isn't worth it.
But for moderately gifted people+, you get the degree, and you do what Steel Curtain is doing. SC will probably be making 6 figures soon enough. When he's making 100k more a year than Highschool Degree Dan, that bit of debt he carried isn't going to matter.
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RE: College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!
May 20, 2018 at 9:53 pm
(May 20, 2018 at 7:51 pm)Kit Wrote: I think debt basically rules out the benefits of a college education.
Are you a free education with no strings guy?
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