College, degrees, and jobs, oh my!

[SteelCurtain]

Not "education is stupid".

More like "higher education is not as beneficial as educators make it out to be".

Not always. If you want to be a mechanic, there's no reason to go to college. If you want to fix computers, same. These jobs are necessary and those who are interested should pursue those avenues.

But to pretend that getting a college degree is not the safest option is ludicrous. If you want to be above the median income level, almost every job you can get requires at least a Bachelor's degree. If you don't know what you want to do, take a couple of years off and try and figure it out. But, odds are, if you want to do something that makes a bit of money, then you're going to have to go to college.

[Foxaèr]

I think debt basically rules out the benefits of a college education.

[The Valkyrie]

As with anything, it depends on what you study.

[Foxaèr]

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[SteelCurtain]

Yes, the comics outweigh the real life shit.

My college debt is $23k.

I make $75k a year in an entry level job.

So not worth it.

[The Valkyrie]

Yes, the comics outweigh the real life shit.

My college debt is $23k.

I make $75k a year in an entry level job.

So not worth it.

I have no student loans and make a shit ton of money.

I haven't been unemployed since graduating and I have turned down a job that would nearly triple what I make now.

As I said, it depends what you study and what's in demand at the time.

[Fireball]

Nobody know, the trouble I see... ...

I was poor as piss on a plate as a kid. I joined the US Navy, and then after that went to university with the GI Bill as supplemental income. I worked as a mechanic most of the way through school. It took me 6.5 years for a B Sc degree, as I supported myself. I graduated with no debt, as a result. If I had continued working as a mechanic, I would have made about the same money, in retrospect. But I had a job that was mostly clean indoor work and minimal heavy lifting.

[The Valkyrie]

Nobody know, the trouble I see... ...

I was poor as piss on a plate as a kid. I joined the US Navy, and then after that went to university with the GI Bill as supplemental income. I worked as a mechanic most of the way through school. It took me 6.5 years for a B Sc degree, as I supported myself. I graduated with no debt, as a result. If I had continued working as a mechanic, I would have made about the same money, in retrospect. But I had a job that was mostly clean indoor work and minimal heavy lifting.

Drug dealer?

[henryp]

I think debt basically rules out the benefits of a college education.

If you don't have a degree, your career is most likely capped at a pretty low level.  But that's fine for people who's likely endgame was Assistant Manager at Wendy's.  You are right that those people being shuffled off to a university, when they would be better off going to community college or a technical school is a giant scam, and that level of debt probably isn't worth it.

But for moderately gifted people+, you get the degree, and you do what Steel Curtain is doing.  SC will probably be making 6 figures soon enough.  When he's making 100k more a year than Highschool Degree Dan, that bit of debt he carried isn't going to matter.

[brewer]

I think debt basically rules out the benefits of a college education.

Are you a free education with no strings guy?