What is your problem with Islam? Think about it

[Darinda]

Sharia.
Pedophilia/Pederasty.
Polygamy.

[WinterHold]

You realize that the proxy that carried on the attacks, was the same proxy America engineered to hit the Soviet Union back in the 80s, right?

Islamic terrorists hijacking a plane and flying it into the twin towers is proxy America?

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Also that's more of an evidence that propaganda is the cause for your hate.

Actually propaganda is what drives you to deny the reality of your religion at its very worst.

Yes. The tactics they employed was given to them by America.
Their friends were even guests at the white house:






The training camps, the weapons, the money, all was coming from the white house and its allies.

Saudi Arabia provided soldiers, America provided the technology and the political cover -they even got Islamists in Rambo-:






Pakistan provided intelligence reports, and more allies provided more stuff.
The result? USSR is no more. The whole world beat it.

I don't think my religion is the worst, but I certainly think that Rambo is not who he says he is.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

What is the source of your problems with Islam?

It's a religion.

[Edwardo Piet]

Atlas... you're sounding like a Truther.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Truth_movement

In other words you're a conspiracy theorist.

The point is that Islamic extremists hijacked an American plane and flew it into a building and they claimed on multiple occasions that they were driven by their beliefs. They died for their beliefs.

[WinterHold]

So it is written in the Bible and the Talmud, Wikipedia has an article about it with Millions of readers & editors worldwide, but it's all a "none of the above"; right?

Don't you ever claim that system; it's not yours. Secular philosophers built it, and lots of Europeans rejecting the bible and the Church's authority bled and saw what the bible and the Talmud are. Remember the illumination period -that accompanied the French revolution-?

Sadly, the Church is being revived with the reach of the right wing to the frontier. Without an illumination

Illumination period?

What, so radioactive half live will exhaust itself and it will stop glowing?



My problem with Islam is minor - it exists.  Fix that and I will have no problems with it at all, outside of history books at least.

Whenever a cult demeans the independent intelligence, power of exploration, and judgement of humanity by attempting to impose itself upon mankind based on some bullshit “received wisdom” of any bullshit prophet and make belief god, I will have problem with its very existence.

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Sura 2, The Quran:
( 256 )   There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

???

[unsapien]

Since Judaism, Christianity & Islam have all sprung from the same source texts, they all have the same degree of horrible ideas and are notionally equally bad. They are all like branches of the same Manchineel tree.

The main difference is that Muslims are the new kids on the block with the highest level of adherence to their faith, the Jews are mostly just "culturally jewish" not really following most of what is written in their books (with the exception of the jewish fundies in Israel).

The Christians have lost a lot of their steam, most barely knowing anything that is in their books.

Islam just happens to be in that crazy stage that all these other religions have already been through.

Islam will get ground down by reality just a surely as all the other religions will and have been.

But for today, right now, globally, they're doing the most damage to our species.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

What is the source of your problems with Islam?

It's a religion.

^Precisely and totally this and nothing else. Certainly not the brown skin of Arabs or their heritage, since not all Arabs are Muslims and not all Muslims are either Arab or brown.  I don't suffer from xenophobia, and I'm certainly not an Islamophobe.

I have no issue with Islam that I don't have with any other religion.

Boru

[Minimalist]

The same problem I have with every religion.  Ridiculous claims made with no fucking evidence whatsoever to substantiate them.

[WinterHold]

I don't have a problem with Islam in and of itself, just with the fact that there is a lot of radicalism within Islam. And radical Islam aren't strict people who are assholes. Radical Islam are people who believe non Muslims should all be killed (among other horrific things). Apparently 20% of Muslims world wide believe it's good to kill non Muslims, for the mere fact of not being Muslim. That's just an extremely high number, and a very radical view.

But if you are otherwise a peaceful, normal Muslim, then I have no problem with you or with your faith at all.

But there are direct explicit verses from the Quran (the source book that all Muslim factions hold holly) that criminalize behaviors like this:

Sura 60, The Quran:
( 8 )   Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
( 9 )   Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.

Another example from the same book:

Sura 7, The Quran:
( 55 )   Call upon your Lord in humility and privately; indeed, He does not like transgressors.
( 56 )   And cause not corruption upon the earth after its reformation. And invoke Him in fear and aspiration. Indeed, the mercy of Allah is near to the doers of good.

So you can understand why I seriously question the belief of extremists. What do they have to say about these verses? that is beyond me.
I think the problem is with exaggerated treatment -or bias, if I can say?- when it comes to dealing with Muslims; the media honestly speaks as if humanity didn't have 2 world wars, a nuclear blast and a hell load of mass shooting victims in the U.S .

I think that Muslims who didn't read the above verses need to seriously revise their faith, or stop taking Islam as a shield for their acts.

[Edwardo Piet]

I have no issue with Islam that I don't have with any other religion.

Same here but some religions are definitely worse than others.

I have one issue with all of them: They're all untrue.

But, extremist Jainism, for instance, is hardly on par with extremist Islam or Extremist Christianity. Some religions definitely cause more harm and do more damage than others.