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Jehovah's Witnesses
#21
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
samson as all religions do especially the many branches of christianity when their prophecies for the end dont come true they cling to the scriptures and move the date up a 100 more years.The latest end time prediction I have heard of is for the year 2012 to my knowledge it has nothing to do with the Jehovahs witnesses but some christians are starting to believe it.
http://www.endoftheworld2012.net/

It has something to do with an ancient mayan calender,I have personally never heard of it till yesterday when I friend of mine brought it to my attention.

Regarding blood transfusions the JW's have come up with a way to allow a no blood method of transfusion.

Bloodless Medicine and Surgery
Some of the Methods
Fluids: Ringer's lactate solution, dextran, hydroxyethyl starch, and others are used to maintain blood volume, preventing hypovolemic shock. Some fluids now being tested can transport oxygen.


Drugs: Genetically engineered proteins can stimulate the production of red blood cells (erythropoietin), blood platelets (interleukin-11), and various white blood cells (GM-CSF, G-CSF). Other medications greatly reduce blood loss during surgery (aprotinin, antifibrinolytics) or help to reduce acute bleeding (desmopressin).


Biological hemostats: Collagen and cellulose woven pads are used to stop bleeding by direct application. Fibrin glues and sealants can plug puncture wounds or cover large areas of bleeding tissue.


Blood salvage: Salvaging machines recover blood that is lost during surgery or trauma. The blood is cleansed and can be returned to the patient in a closed circuit. In extreme cases, liters of blood can be recovered using such a system.


Surgical techniques: Thorough operative planning, including consultation with experienced clinicians, helps the surgical team to avoid complications. Prompt action to stop bleeding is essential. Delays greater than 24 hours can greatly increase patient mortality. Dividing large surgeries into several smaller ones decreases total blood loss.


Surgical tools: Some devices cut and seal blood vessels simultaneously. Other devices can seal bleeding on large areas of tissue. Laparoscopic and minimally invasive instruments allow surgeries to be performed without the blood loss associated with large incisions.

The above information is taken from the JWs official website http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000108/diagram_01.htm One last note:In my view the name Jehovahs witness is a misnomer since they have never seen Jehovah nor witnessed anything he supposedly did.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition

http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.com/

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#22
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
Jehovah's witnesses are Statan's witnesses. Hovah in the hebrew means "mischief". There were no J's during Moses time, so how could The Most High's name be Jehovah? The Most High gave Moses his name in Exodus 3:13-15. The Most High said his name is "I AM THAT I AM" I AM told Moses that "I AM" is his name forever.
Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. (Hosea 4:1)
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#23
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
God has the name that man has decided to call him Jehova,Elohim,Yaweh,Allah etc. etc. etc. since God does not exist it is logical that he cannot reveal himself to anyone except in the fertile imagination of the mind of man.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition

http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.com/

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#24
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
(June 12, 2009 at 12:35 pm)TRUTH1986 Wrote: Jehovah's witnesses are Statan's witnesses. Hovah in the hebrew means "mischief". There were no J's during Moses time, so how could The Most High's name be Jehovah? The Most High gave Moses his name in Exodus 3:13-15. The Most High said his name is "I AM THAT I AM" I AM told Moses that "I AM" is his name forever.

Jehovah's Witnesses are simply people that are as deluded as you.

Kyu
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#25
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
(June 13, 2009 at 2:38 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:
(June 12, 2009 at 12:35 pm)TRUTH1986 Wrote: Jehovah's witnesses are Statan's witnesses. Hovah in the hebrew means "mischief". There were no J's during Moses time, so how could The Most High's name be Jehovah? The Most High gave Moses his name in Exodus 3:13-15. The Most High said his name is "I AM THAT I AM" I AM told Moses that "I AM" is his name forever.

Jehovah's Witnesses are simply people that are as deluded as you.

Kyu

I'm deluded??? You're the atheist.
(June 12, 2009 at 1:33 pm)chatpilot Wrote: God has the name that man has decided to call him Jehova,Elohim,Yaweh,Allah etc. etc. etc. since God does not exist it is logical that he cannot reveal himself to anyone except in the fertile imagination of the mind of man.

You're right, man made God(s). Man has also made himself a God (Man seeking Man for answers to the invincible). The Creator and "God" are not the same.
Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. (Hosea 4:1)
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#26
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
(June 13, 2009 at 9:36 am)TRUTH1986 Wrote:
(June 13, 2009 at 2:38 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Jehovah's Witnesses are simply people that are as deluded as you.

I'm deluded??? You're the atheist.

Indeed I am and yes you are VERY MUCH the deluded one and the more of your crap you keep posting the more you demonstrate that.

(June 13, 2009 at 9:36 am)TRUTH1986 Wrote: The Creator and "God" are not the same.

Er, yes they are ... they're all just gods to the rational observer and to the rational observer no such things exist.

Kyu
Angry Atheism
Where those who are hacked off with the stupidity of irrational belief can vent their feelings!
Come over to the dark side, we have cookies!

Kyuuketsuki, AngryAtheism Owner & Administrator
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#27
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
(June 12, 2009 at 10:11 am)chatpilot Wrote: samson as all religions do especially the many branches of christianity when their prophecies for the end dont come true they cling to the scriptures and move the date up a 100 more years.The latest end time prediction I have heard of is for the year 2012 to my knowledge it has nothing to do with the Jehovahs witnesses but some christians are starting to believe it.
http://www.endoftheworld2012.net/

It has something to do with an ancient mayan calender,I have personally never heard of it till yesterday when I friend of mine brought it to my attention.

Regarding blood transfusions the JW's have come up with a way to allow a no blood method of transfusion.

Bloodless Medicine and Surgery
Some of the Methods
Fluids: Ringer's lactate solution, dextran, hydroxyethyl starch, and others are used to maintain blood volume, preventing hypovolemic shock. Some fluids now being tested can transport oxygen.


Drugs: Genetically engineered proteins can stimulate the production of red blood cells (erythropoietin), blood platelets (interleukin-11), and various white blood cells (GM-CSF, G-CSF). Other medications greatly reduce blood loss during surgery (aprotinin, antifibrinolytics) or help to reduce acute bleeding (desmopressin).


Biological hemostats: Collagen and cellulose woven pads are used to stop bleeding by direct application. Fibrin glues and sealants can plug puncture wounds or cover large areas of bleeding tissue.


Blood salvage: Salvaging machines recover blood that is lost during surgery or trauma. The blood is cleansed and can be returned to the patient in a closed circuit. In extreme cases, liters of blood can be recovered using such a system.


Surgical techniques: Thorough operative planning, including consultation with experienced clinicians, helps the surgical team to avoid complications. Prompt action to stop bleeding is essential. Delays greater than 24 hours can greatly increase patient mortality. Dividing large surgeries into several smaller ones decreases total blood loss.


Surgical tools: Some devices cut and seal blood vessels simultaneously. Other devices can seal bleeding on large areas of tissue. Laparoscopic and minimally invasive instruments allow surgeries to be performed without the blood loss associated with large incisions.

The above information is taken from the JWs official website http://www.watchtower.org/e/20000108/diagram_01.htm One last note:In my view the name Jehovahs witness is a misnomer since they have never seen Jehovah nor witnessed anything he supposedly did.

Chatpilot, I promise you I already knew those answers, I was just giving them to Dar so he could screw with them more.
Intelligence is the only true moral guide...
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#28
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
(June 13, 2009 at 10:36 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:
(June 13, 2009 at 9:36 am)TRUTH1986 Wrote:
(June 13, 2009 at 2:38 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Jehovah's Witnesses are simply people that are as deluded as you.

I'm deluded??? You're the atheist.

Indeed I am and yes you are VERY MUCH the deluded one and the more of your crap you keep posting the more you demonstrate that.

(June 13, 2009 at 9:36 am)TRUTH1986 Wrote: The Creator and "God" are not the same.

Er, yes they are ... they're all just gods to the rational observer and to the rational observer no such things exist.

Kyu

There are many Gods, but only ONE Creator.
Hear the word of the LORD, ye children of Israel: for the LORD hath a controversy with the inhabitants of the land, because there is no truth, nor mercy, nor knowledge of God in the land. (Hosea 4:1)
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#29
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
Can you define "Creator" and explain how it is different from the definition of a "God", because so far you just seem to be arguing with semantics.
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#30
RE: Jehovah's Witnesses
I mean how I understand it is that--by the common definition anyway--"God" is 'the creator' - he's the Supernatural Creator of the universe?

That's how I understand the common definition of "God"...of a monotheistic "God"??

EvF
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