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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 6:27 pm
Well, it is a christian country, or so we;re told.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 6:52 pm
(June 11, 2018 at 12:30 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: The supreme law of the land is the US Constitution which includes not only the free exercise of religion, i.e. being able to live in accordance with sincerely held convictions, but also freedom of association, which includes who you want to associate with personally, politically, and economically.
I'd like the cake man (and you) to give a list of all "sincerely held convictions" and then be held accountable to under all conditions and circumstances.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 7:20 pm
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(June 11, 2018 at 12:30 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (June 11, 2018 at 10:07 am)robvalue Wrote: Religion shouldn't trump the law, in my opinion.
The supreme law of the land is the US Constitution which includes not only the free exercise of religion, i.e. being able to live in accordance with sincerely held convictions, but also freedom of association, which includes who you want to associate with personally, politically, and economically.
Quote:The Court’s precedents make clear that the baker, in his capacity as the owner of a business serving the public, might have his right to the free exercise of religion limited by generally applicable laws. ... It is unexceptional that Colorado law can protect gay persons, just as it can protect other classes of individuals, in acquiring whatever products and services they choose on the same terms and conditions as are offered to other members of the public. And there are no doubt innumerable goods and services that no one could argue implicate the First Amendment. Petitioners conceded, moreover, that if a baker refused to sell any goods or any cakes for gay weddings, that would be a different matter and the State would have a strong case under this Court’s precedents that this would be a denial of goods and services that went beyond any protected rights of a baker who offers goods and services to the general public and is subject to a neutrally applied and generally applicable public accommodations law. See Tr. of Oral Arg. 4–7, 10.
Justice Kennedy, majority opinion, Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 7:30 pm
Quote:The supreme law of the land is the US Constitution which includes not only the free exercise of religion, i.e. being able to live in accordance with sincerely held convictions, but also freedom of association, which includes who you want to associate with personally, politically, and economically.
I imagine you mean your convictions
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 10:23 pm
Very interesting. I am curious if this will set any sort of precedent in the future. There are obviously two sides to this situation.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 10:28 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2018 at 10:29 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Nope, the ruling was worded specifically so that it didn;t set precedent. There are two sides, though. The side that affirms the legitimacy of civil rights..and the side that reckons religious people shouldn;t have to adhere to civil rights law when operating a business.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 11:08 pm
Would the same religious people think it's okay for me to open a business offering services or products, and then refuse to serve people who somehow offend my sensibilities?
This all represents the new radical approach to religion where the person takes the parts of their book that they like (gay sex is a sin) but then ignore or explain away the parts they don't (and we should kill gays).
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 11:31 pm
I guess the SJW’s will always have fake news!
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 11:33 pm
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One toke over the line? For clarity, by "sjw" do you mean people who affirm the legitimacy of civil rights....? I can see that..kind of goes with the territory, wouldn;t you think? It -is- in the name, after all.
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RE: Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Colorado Baker
June 11, 2018 at 11:43 pm
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Quote:I guess the SJW’s will always have fake news!
Ah a term that no longer has any actual meaning and is just a right wing buzz word for what they don't like.
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