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The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
#31
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
I think the only thing that's clear is that you are certain you possess skill which you do not in fact have.
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#32
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
It's not about me, these are proofs for God, whether I state them or someone else does.
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#33
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
(June 10, 2018 at 6:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To know only a perfect absolute judge can accurately maintain us if we have an accurate reality is something I argued for. I will rephrase it here.

It's because we are not objective judges to who we are, and even if we all are, we aren't absolute judges to who we are, that is we don't have an absolute perfect understanding to who we are.

And if we aren't that which sees the "program us" and we control a lot of our brain, then neither is our brain.

It's really simple to understand this.

And just because a conclusion  to some premises is stated in the beginning doesn't mean it is a premise and not a conclusion of other premises.

Of course, this would not prove God without the other facts, that we do accurately exist, and to know that, you just have to love yourself enough Smile

Where do you get this gawd is an objective judge? What I see in the bible is a VERY biased being and if you're biased your NOT objective.
Have you ever read your bible OBJECTIVELY? I have, it made me the atheist I am today.
I have to ask. WTF are you smoking? You should sell that shit. You'd make a mint.
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#34
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
(June 29, 2018 at 3:05 pm)oldpollock Wrote: Have you ever read your bible OBJECTIVELY? I have, it made me the atheist I am today.

Psssst. Mystic is a Muslim.

(June 29, 2018 at 2:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It's not about me, these are proofs for God, whether I state them or someone else does.

Is the assessment of what these are and what they accomplish from you?
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#35
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
(June 29, 2018 at 3:07 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(June 29, 2018 at 3:05 pm)oldpollock Wrote: Have you ever read your bible OBJECTIVELY? I have, it made me the atheist I am today.

Psssst.  Mystic is a Muslim.


Ahh didn't know that. I stand corrected. His gawd is still just as biased as any other which still means that being can not be objective and I still think he hasn't read his holy book objectively.
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#36
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
(June 29, 2018 at 3:07 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(June 29, 2018 at 2:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It's not about me, these are proofs for God, whether I state them or someone else does.

Is the assessment of what these are and what they accomplish from you?

I'm saying it doesn't matter who it's from, these proofs are proofs of God.
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#37
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
(June 29, 2018 at 3:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 29, 2018 at 3:07 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

Is the assessment of what these are and what they accomplish from you?

I'm saying it doesn't matter who it's from, these proofs are proofs of God.

Yet again demonstrating that you don't understand the very matters that you believe you understand.
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#38
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
(June 29, 2018 at 3:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 29, 2018 at 3:07 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:

Is the assessment of what these are and what they accomplish from you?

I'm saying it doesn't matter who it's from, these proofs are proofs of God.

So, if a wild haired loon shows up on TV and tell us we should believe in aliens because he’s met one, we should believe him?

And you would believe him?

Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:

"You did WHAT?  With WHO?  WHERE???"
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#39
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
(June 29, 2018 at 3:42 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:
(June 29, 2018 at 3:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm saying it doesn't matter who it's from, these proofs are proofs of God.

So, if a wild haired loon shows up on TV and tell us we should believe in aliens because he’s met one, we should believe him?

And you would believe him?

I never told you guys to believe in my experiences, but these proofs stand to reason regardless of who said them.
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#40
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
(June 29, 2018 at 3:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 29, 2018 at 3:42 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: So, if a wild haired loon shows up on TV and tell us we should believe in aliens because he’s met one, we should believe him?

And you would believe him?

I never told you guys to believe in my experiences, but these proofs stand to reason regardless of who said them.

Again, your opinion. And when anybody has an opinion contrary to yours, you resort to attacking their character and other similar bullshit.

You are not a man to be trusted, MK.
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