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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 3:22 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2018 at 3:24 pm by Cecelia.)
Better solution!
How about we take all the Republicans and put them on a bus and send them to Mexico. Then let all the undocumented immigrants (I refused to call them illegal or criminal because they're humans who's only 'crime' is looking for a better life much like our ancestors did). Then we pay to build a wall -- this should make the Republicans happy, they'll have their wall. They can take Trump and Pence and Paul Ryan with them too. Then they can turn Mexico into their capitalist paradise with guns for everyone, and we can build a proper nation. We'll even let them have Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Kansas and Mississippi.
Bonus for them, they can freely discriminate against black people and gay people again without worrying about backlash for a good 100 years or so.
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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 3:25 pm
Trump is on the right track =
Trump calls for deporting illegal immigrants with 'no judges or court cases'
"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump said on Sunday that people who enter the United States illegally should be sent back immediately to where they came from without any judicial process, likening them to invaders who are trying to “break into” the country.
“We cannot allow all of these people to invade our Country. When somebody comes in, we must immediately, with no Judges or Court Cases, bring them back from where they came,” Trump said Sunday on Twitter.
“Cannot accept all of the people trying to break into our Country. Strong Borders, No Crime!”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-i...SKBN1JK0OL
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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 4:57 pm
O.O
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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 5:07 pm
The Orange Fucktard knows less about the law than you do, Wyrd.
Hey, why not just shoot them on sight? I'm sure you would go for that, too.
Quote:https://archive.org/stream/refugeeactof1...0_djvu.txt
Quote:TITLE I— PURPOSE
8 use 1521 note. Sec. 101. (a) The Congress declares that it is the historic policy of
the United States to respond to the urgent needs of persons subject to
persecution in their homelands, including, where appropriate,
humanitarian assistance for their care and maintenance in asylum
areas, efforts to promote opportunities for resettlement or voluntary
repatriation, aid for necessary transportation and processing, admis-
sion to this country of refugees of special humanitarian concern to
the United States, and transitional assistance to refugees in the
United States. The Congress further declares that it is the policy of
the United States to encourage all nations to provide assistance and
resettlement opportunities to refugees to the fullest extent possible.
Guess they never met trumptards.
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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 5:14 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2018 at 6:00 pm by Angrboda.)
(June 24, 2018 at 11:37 am)FlyingNarwhal Wrote: (June 24, 2018 at 8:17 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: You could dramatically increase the portion of taxes that illegal immigrants pay if you made them all citizens.
Not necessarily. As many have pointed out illegal immigrants do not receive many benefits because they are not citizens, in fact the immigrants that DO pay taxes, pay out more than they receive, yes. Once they become citizens, it's a different story. We know that about half of the illegal immigrant population have not attained a high school diploma or equivalent, well above the national average. Half the population can also neither speak English, or not speak it well. We also know that on average a household only makes $30,100. Between lack of education and language barriers, this makes lifting yourself out of poverty unlikely. Instead what will more likely happen is the benefits that were not available prior to amnesty will now be used, creating a tax deficit for a large portion of the population given amnesty.
While it's certainly reasonable that a portion of those made citizens would start accepting benefits that they had not received before, it is an open question whether the benefits received would more than offset any additional tax revenue. Given that those illegal immigrants are currently largely self-sufficient, your speculation that once they are made citizens they would start sucking hard on the government teat appears to be a conclusion that has its basis more in anti-immigrant rhetoric than in any actual facts of the matter. One also has to factor in the absolute benefit that immigrants make to our economy, which can't realistically be balanced by any equation. We already have reports of businesses struggling due to a lack of immigrant labor. If immigration quotas were increased to allow a greater percentage of those immigrants currently coming here illegally to do so legally, it's unclear what the impact would be overall. However, to blithely assume that incoming immigrants and current illegal immigrants would suddenly become a burden to the economy seems an opinion based largely on anti-immigrant propaganda. Regardless of its source, your opinion is largely fact free and constitutes nothing more than baseless conjecture.
Quote:Despite financing and licensing obstacles, undocumented immigrants frequently start their own businesses. In 2014, almost 10 percent of the working-age undocumented population were entrepreneurs. In more than 20 states, they boast higher rates of entrepreneurship than either legal permanent residents or citizens of the same age group. These self-employed workers frequently create American jobs. Their companies also generated $17.2 billion in business income in 2014.
https://www.newamericaneconomy.org/issue...mmigrants/
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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 6:06 pm
(June 24, 2018 at 5:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The Orange Fucktard knows less about the law than you do, Wyrd.
Hey, why not just shoot them on sight? I'm sure you would go for that, too.
Quote:https://archive.org/stream/refugeeactof1...0_djvu.txt
Quote:TITLE I— PURPOSE
8 use 1521 note. Sec. 101. (a) The Congress declares that it is the historic policy of
the United States to respond to the urgent needs of persons subject to
persecution in their homelands, including, where appropriate,
humanitarian assistance for their care and maintenance in asylum
areas, efforts to promote opportunities for resettlement or voluntary
repatriation, aid for necessary transportation and processing, admis-
sion to this country of refugees of special humanitarian concern to
the United States, and transitional assistance to refugees in the
United States. The Congress further declares that it is the policy of
the United States to encourage all nations to provide assistance and
resettlement opportunities to refugees to the fullest extent possible.
Guess they never met trumptards. It's time to shitcan TITLE I— PURPOSE
8 use 1521 note. Sec. 101. (a)
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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 6:14 pm
You see, in this country, the Orange Fuhrer does not get to make that decision.... and the dumbfuck has precious little luck getting anything through congress even when his party of spineless, sniveling, cunts is in control.
You could always try mining the border and separating families that way.
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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 7:41 pm
(June 24, 2018 at 6:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You see, in this country, the Orange Fuhrer does not get to make that decision.... and the dumbfuck has precious little luck getting anything through congress even when his party of spineless, sniveling, cunts is in control.
You could always try mining the border and separating families that way.
People are getting tired of being flooded with illegal aliens so mine fields are a possible solution.
'1,000 migrants in boats off Libya' as Italy tells rescue ships to stop
"Rome (AFP) - Italy's far-right Interior Minister Matteo Salvini on Sunday told foreign charities to stop rescuing migrants off Libya even as one group said 1,000 people were on boats in distress in the Mediterranean.
With Italy -- long the frontline in Europe's migration crisis -- vowing a new hardline stance, Salvini told the aid groups to back off and let the Libyan coastguard take care of rescue operations.
"Let the Libyan authorities do their work of rescue, recovery and return (of migrants) to their country, as they have been doing for some time, without the ships of the voracious NGOs disturbing them or causing trouble," he said.
"Italian ports are and will be closed to those who aid human traffickers," he said."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/italian-minis...13035.html
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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 7:52 pm
What they are tired of is irrelevant
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RE: Illegal Immigrants
June 24, 2018 at 8:27 pm
(June 24, 2018 at 7:52 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: What they are tired of is irrelevant
Not really because once they are tired of the current situation they will use stronger methods to eliminate it. Does anyone want to be on the receiving end of their anger?
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