Illegal Immigrants

[Wyrd of Gawd]

[Amarok]

Let's add sarcasm and dis-ingenuousness along with hyperbole 

[henryp]

It's just something funny.  

People say "What if the Native Americans didn't let the white man in?"  

The question relies on people being self-centered, so they think "That'd be bad!" because they look at it from the white man's perspective. But if you look at it from the perspective of Native Americans (which is what would be applicable if it were a serious point), it would have been WAY better for the Naive Americans to just kill off the white people when they showed up.  

Just an amusing thing about how self-centered people are.  They identify with their race, not their position in the relationship dynamic.

It's not funny. Not by any means. The NAI were a gracious community of people, extending an olive branch (so to speak) and welcoming in people from a foreign land. What we did to them was utterly disgraceful. And now, thanks to the current administration, we have essentially slapped those wanting to come here, in the face with a double standard. What's good for the white man isn't good enough for the brown man. 

We killed the gracious people and stole their land!!!!   The moral of that tale is don't be gracious to immigrants, or they'll kill you.   That's the joke.  That if the NAI had a do-over, they should have killed all the invaders.  It's the exact opposite conclusion from what people who bring it up are getting at.

[Amarok]

We killed the gracious people and stole their land!!!!   The moral of that tale is don't be gracious to immigrants, or they'll kill you.   That's the joke.  That if the NAI had a do-over, they should have killed all the invaders.  It's the exact opposite conclusion from what people who bring it up are getting at.

Nope

[Wyrd of Gawd]

[Amarok]

[Wyrd of Gawd]

[Amarok]

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That's great news that you are still committed to flooding the US and Canada will asylum seekers.  Now we can get to work and bring billions of oppressed people to the US and to Canada where they can live great lives in freedom and take care of us in out dotage.  

I have to congratulate you for helping me see all of the wonderful benefits having 5 or 6 billion people in Canada and the US will bring.  It will eliminate trade wars as well as actual wars.  It will reduce if not eliminate the pollution of the oceans. It will eliminate the need for military spending because the majority of people will be living under the US federal government.  And pollution will be reduced because there will be no real need for international travel.  

We really need to get super busy and make this happen.  It will usher in a true paradise on Earth.  So let's get those letters out to all of our national leaders and get them on board to make it a reality.  What title do you want in the Eternal Front for Asylum?  Get in on the ground floor because all of the best titles will be taken in 24 hours.

Once again my previous points stand

[Mister Agenda]

If you want to change the immigration policies, I would suggest that you contact your representatives.  Or I am happy to discuss, if you have an idea.  However what you feel the immigration policy should be, I believe is a different topic from what to do with those who violate those laws.

How about we follow the procedures in place and look to congress if we don't like them instead of playing 'hey, let's try taking their children away, that'll send a message'.

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This analogy is making my head hurt.

That's because the 'would you let someone move into your house without your permission' scenario is a terrible analogy from the start.

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You've worked hard to convince me to change my opinion and now that I'm agreeing with you it's made you upset.  Are you now saying that you don't want to flood the US and Canada with billions of asylum seekers?

No one ever tried to convince you of that. As you descend deeper and deeper into ridiculousness, there seems less and less point to reading your posts on the matter except for the train wreck fascination of finding out if you can top yourself at building ludicrous straw men.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

If you want to change the immigration policies, I would suggest that you contact your representatives.  Or I am happy to discuss, if you have an idea.  However what you feel the immigration policy should be, I believe is a different topic from what to do with those who violate those laws.

How about we follow the procedures in place and look to congress if we don't like them instead of playing 'hey, let's try taking their children away, that'll send a message'.

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This analogy is making my head hurt.

That's because the 'would you let someone move into your house without your permission' scenario is a terrible analogy from the start.

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You've worked hard to convince me to change my opinion and now that I'm agreeing with you it's made you upset.  Are you now saying that you don't want to flood the US and Canada with billions of asylum seekers?

No one ever tried to convince you of that. As you descend deeper and deeper into ridiculousness, there seems less and less point to reading your posts on the matter except for the train wreck fascination of finding out if you can top yourself at building ludicrous straw men.

It's become obvious that people who whine on behalf of asylum seekers are just posing to make themselves look empathic.  They are not really interested in helping people who are truly in need of protection from oppression around the world  They just like to raise a ruckus to get some feel good points.  

The bottom line = all of you guys are full of shit and it's obvious to everyone who has been reading this thread.