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Justice Kennedy retiring!
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Justice Kennedy retiring!
RIP democracy.
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RE: Justice Kennedy retiring!
(June 27, 2018 at 2:57 pm)polymath257 Wrote: RIP democracy.

Democrats do tend to flip out when they don’t get their way. From my understanding, though Trumps first appointee, was rather conservative. Not necessarily politically, but in believing that his job is to judge the law, not create it. I’m hoping for more like that.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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(June 27, 2018 at 3:12 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(June 27, 2018 at 2:57 pm)polymath257 Wrote: RIP democracy.

Democrats do tend to flip out when they don’t get their way. From my understanding, though Trumps first appointee, was rather conservative. Not necessarily politically, but in believing that his job is to judge the law, not create it. I’m hoping for more like that.

Trump's first appointee was stolen from Obama, so I understand why they flipped out.

Anyway, the argument the Republicans made was that 2016 was an election year right? Well, 2018 is also an election year, so I'm sure they'll be consistent and wait until the new Senate is in session to approve Trump's nominee, right? /s
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RE: Justice Kennedy retiring!
Here's a link....

Quote:Justice Anthony M. Kennedy announced Wednesday that he is retiring from the Supreme Court, a move that gives President Trump the chance to replace the court’s pivotal justice and dramatically shift the institution to the right, setting up a bitter partisan showdown on Kennedy’s successor.

“It has been the greatest honor and privilege to serve our nation in the federal judiciary for 43 years, 30 of those years on the Supreme Court,” Kennedy, who is stepping down July 31, said in a statement.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/justic...spartandhp

(June 27, 2018 at 3:36 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(June 27, 2018 at 3:12 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Democrats do tend to flip out when they don’t get their way. From my understanding, though Trumps first appointee, was rather conservative. Not necessarily politically, but in believing that his job is to judge the law, not create it.  I’m hoping for more like that.

Trump's first appointee was stolen from Obama, so I understand why they flipped out.

Anyway, the argument the Republicans made was that 2016 was an election year right? Well, 2018 is also an election year, so I'm sure they'll be consistent and wait until the new Senate is in session to approve Trump's nominee, right? /s
Then again, it's been a rough going for the dems lately. So, if they do decide to hold up a SCOTUS nominee it would make for good GOP campaign fodder to further paint the picture that the dems are obstructionists.
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RE: Justice Kennedy retiring!
(June 27, 2018 at 3:51 pm)A Theist Wrote: Then again, it's been a rough going for the dems lately.

How so?

Quote:So, if they do decide to hold up a SCOTUS nominee it would make for good GOP campaign fodder to further paint the picture that the dems are obstructionists.

Republicans control all three branches of government. Voting against something is not obstructionism. Even if it were, Democrats can't possibly obstruct unless they get Republican help.

If you want to see obstructionism, how about the last (Republican) Senate not doing their job by refusing to consider Obama's court nominees? This is literally the job of the Senate, and they refused to even hold votes.
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If the Dems vote they are wimps and should be replaced.
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RE: Justice Kennedy retiring!
(June 27, 2018 at 4:01 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(June 27, 2018 at 3:51 pm)A Theist Wrote: Then again, it's been a rough going for the dems lately.

How so?

Quote:So, if they do decide to hold up a SCOTUS nominee it would make for good GOP campaign fodder to further paint the picture that the dems are obstructionists.

Republicans control all three branches of government. Voting against something is not obstructionism. Even if it were, Democrats can't possibly obstruct unless they get Republican help.

If you want to see obstructionism, how about the last (Republican) Senate not doing their job by refusing to consider Obama's court nominees? This is literally the job of the Senate, and they refused to even hold votes.
For one, the Dems definitely had a big edge over the zero tolerance policy which separated children from their illegal immigrant parents. Then zealots on the far left totally blew it for the Dems when they began to mob and harass Trump Cabinet members in public. Maxine Waters and Peter Fonda only added fuel to that fire and Trump's poll numbers have been on the rise. Last night's NY dem primary had a young socialist community organizer unseat a long time House dem. So not a good time for the Dems.

For the second part, voters have short term memories....and too bad for Hillary she didn't make that a campaign issue. I think if GOP candidates will campaign how that Dems opposed the tax cuts and how that Dems have said they will resist Trump and the GOP, ....so now, more than likely, they'll try to obstruct a SCOTUS nominee. The Dems have no message going into the midterms other than resist Trump.
"Inside every Liberal there's a Totalitarian screaming to get out"

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Quote: JohnDG...
Quote:It was an awful mistake to characterize based upon religion. I should not judge any theist that way, I must remember what I said in order to change.
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RE: Justice Kennedy retiring!
(June 27, 2018 at 4:40 pm)A Theist Wrote: For one, the Dems definitely had a big edge over the zero tolerance policy which separated children from their illegal immigrant parents. Then zealots on the far left totally blew it for the Dems when they began to mob and harass Trump Cabinet members in public.

Those are entirely separate issues. I don't see how anything is "blown". For what it's worth, the Democrats are still talking about immigrants. I believe there were several court cases filed this week.

Quote:Maxine Waters and Peter Fonda only added fuel to that fire and Trump's poll numbers have been on the rise. Last night's NY dem primary had a young socialist community organizer unseat a long time House dem. So not a good time for the Dems.

Trump's poll numbers haven't been on the rise. Even the conservative leaning pollsters don't agree on that: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c...ex_history If anything, they've stayed about the same.

Your point about the unseating of the long time House dem only matters if you're certain that New York won't show out to vote for her. They probably will.

Quote:For the second part, voters have short term memories....and too bad for Hillary she didn't make that a campaign issue. I think if GOP candidates will campaign how that Dems opposed the tax cuts and how that Dems have said they will resist Trump and the GOP, ....so now, more than likely, they'll try to obstruct a SCOTUS nominee. The Dems have no message going into the midterms other than resist Trump.

A GOP candidate will campaign based on the fact that Democrats oppose a GOP president and the GOP? Wow, what an amazingly original strategy. Newsflash, that happens every election, for both parties. Democrats want a Democrat led government. Republicans want a Republican led government.

How exactly, do you think Democrats can obstruct a SCOTUS nominee? As far as I'm aware, they don't have enough votes to do anything. If the SCOTUS appointment gets blocked, it will be because Republican(s) vote Nay.
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RE: Justice Kennedy retiring!
(June 27, 2018 at 3:36 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(June 27, 2018 at 3:12 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Democrats do tend to flip out when they don’t get their way. From my understanding, though Trumps first appointee, was rather conservative. Not necessarily politically, but in believing that his job is to judge the law, not create it.  I’m hoping for more like that.

Trump's first appointee was stolen from Obama, so I understand why they flipped out.

Anyway, the argument the Republicans made was that 2016 was an election year right? Well, 2018 is also an election year, so I'm sure they'll be consistent and wait until the new Senate is in session to approve Trump's nominee, right? /s

Yep and Obama sank the Titanic and killed off the dinosaurs. 

I do not want to hear shit from the GOP after what they did to VOTERS!  NO, not Obama, but the voters whom TWICE put him in office to make that decision. Watch as these fuckers suddenly become hypocrites and claim we are the "obstructionists". 

The days of polite are gone. They were dicks to Obama, so we are going to be dicks right back.
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RE: Justice Kennedy retiring!
(June 27, 2018 at 5:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 27, 2018 at 3:36 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Trump's first appointee was stolen from Obama, so I understand why they flipped out.

Anyway, the argument the Republicans made was that 2016 was an election year right? Well, 2018 is also an election year, so I'm sure they'll be consistent and wait until the new Senate is in session to approve Trump's nominee, right? /s

Yep and Obama sank the Titanic and killed off the dinosaurs. 

I do not want to hear shit from the GOP after what they did to VOTERS!  NO, not Obama, but the voters whom TWICE put him in office to make that decision. Watch as these fuckers suddenly become hypocrites and claim we are the "obstructionists". 

The days of polite are gone. They were dicks to Obama, so we are going to be dicks right back.

It seems have if you do not think this is wrong then!
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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