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Why believe the bible?
RE: Why believe the bible?
(July 9, 2018 at 12:22 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(July 8, 2018 at 11:50 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: What are the five most moral things in the Bible?

Morality isn't defined in degrees, either something is immoral or it isn't.

The only moral code a christian is to abide by is love, which covers a multitude of sin.

Love cannot commit immoral acts and therefore needs no law to govern it's behavior.

Morality comes from the society in which it develops, just as true for meerkats or deer as for people, we have evolved to be social animals.



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RE: Why believe the bible?
(July 9, 2018 at 1:08 pm)Drich Wrote:
(July 9, 2018 at 10:08 am)Mathilda Wrote: I don't think anyone here hates you Drich. No one even really knows you.

Do not confuse hate and contempt.

Who said anything about hating me?

I said what is worse hating someone over skin color or hating them because they do not think as you do or may hold different religious views.

The person I was speaking with fired back it is batter to hate someone with different religious views...

OK well as long you know that we only hold contempt for you rather than hate then that's fine.
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RE: Why believe the bible?
(July 9, 2018 at 1:25 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(July 8, 2018 at 11:28 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Your video is nothing but a bunch of drivel, but I suppose people that are unable to think for themselves, need to have someone do their thinking for them.

So unless your willing to say you agree with absolutely everything said in the video (which I can easily debunk), how about arguing morality with your own words.

Go on then debunk it.

The first point your video made was this, and I quote:


Quote:Piranha's, ruthless killing machines, right? But notice even in the feeding frenzy they don't kill each other. Piranha's do not believe in a God yet they don't do whatever they want, where do the ruthless killing machines get their moral code about not killing each other from.

This is just false, piranhas will cannibalize each other, they tend to go for injured prey, if a piranha becomes injured, they will attack it.

I recently watched a behind the scenes special where a cameraman was swimming with piranhas and filming them during a feeding frenzy, they didn't attack him, this has nothing to do with any moral code.

Here is a different video, same result.




There you go, debunked.
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RE: Why believe the bible?
(July 9, 2018 at 1:40 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Everytime you decide to remember alt-history under Adolph bin'Obama, Drich, I wonder why you feel the need to ask the question of which of the two is worse, lol.

where am I wrong sport?

Were the jew segregated for their skin color? or did it have to do with their religion? Then is it not fair to say the nazis hated the jews for their religious belief/thoughts? thoughts that were comletely different than their own concerning values and morality?

Did the jews In germany during WWI fight for or against germany? For sport they fought right long side corporal adolf hitler, even saved his jewish commanding officer. 

So what happened between WWI and WWII? economic down turn/Germany was made to payback the rest of europe for the damage caused by the war. Many Jews held prominent positions because Jews Higher jews/trust jews over gentiles because of the shared moral obligation they have to God. which infuriated others. now multiply this hatred over 20 some odd years. then the jews and their God become immoral because german is starving while their God provides for them with good jobs... now as a new power arises one without jews the everyday german gets to play god with the pretentious jews and the way they speak and look down on the everyday "moral man."

how far are we down this rabbit hole sport? or are you still pretending this has never happened to any society?


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RE: Why believe the bible?
(July 9, 2018 at 2:04 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: this has nothing to do with any moral code.
Probably should have just left it at this...since...this
Quote:This is just false, piranhas will cannibalize each other, they tend to go for injured prey, if a piranha becomes injured, they will attack it.
...doesn;t actually debunk this..
Quote:Piranha's, ruthless killing machines, right? But notice even in the feeding frenzy they don't kill each other.
Both statements are equally true.  

It;s interesting that they don;t go for each other in the shuffle.  You;d think a nip would happen on accident..but it generally doesn;t.  On the rare occasions that it does, pirahna will eat pirahna (and the pirahna being eaten will continue to go about it;s business eating whatever it was eating).  This is actually true of most carnivorous or omnivorous fish, the pirahna isn;t peculiar  in this regard.  One of the most crucial things about raising fish..even, is keeping them segregated and growing at a uniform rate to reduce losses to cannibalism.

OFC, we don;t expect fish to have a moral code, or anything approaching one.

(July 9, 2018 at 2:21 pm)Drich Wrote:
(July 9, 2018 at 1:40 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Everytime you decide to remember alt-history under Adolph bin'Obama, Drich, I wonder why you feel the need to ask the question of which of the two is worse, lol.

where am I wrong sport?
Trying to pick apart the fantasyland you live in would be exhausting and pointless, lol.  I merely note that you;re one of the usual suspects with boring and completely predictable tendencies.  Not the least of which, a routine inability to notice or appreciate irony.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why believe the bible?
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(July 9, 2018 at 2:21 pm)Drich Wrote: where am I wrong sport?
Trying to pick apart the fantasyland you live in would be exhausting and pointless, lol.  I merely note that you;re one of the usual suspects with boring and completely predictable tendencies.  Not the least of which, a routine inability to notice or appreciate irony.
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fail..

I gave your 3 points to refute. refuting any one of them would have made your point. how would correct any one of those three point have been exhausting? simply google the premise or statement and if no historical paralell can be found you've sucessfully refuted my efforts here.

However I know the opposite to be true, in those three points are irrefutable and we are indeed on track of 'immortalizing' religion/God, just like the Nazi's did.

Predictable how? going line by line and addressing each point with specific attention to detail? unlike your generalized sweeping under the rug that you are doing?

Pretending nazi were religious is not irony. Hitler demanded the country worship Him as God and his book as the bible. that is not religion sport. Yes he used the format, but never claimed to be the abrahamic God Himself, albeit did in fact claimed to be the 'savior of Germany.' He was a 'deity' unto himself. Again not the fault of religion, certainly not the fault of christianity lest you can find book chapter and verse that supported hitler's directive in the bible..

See how that works? you make a comment an erroneous comment, I correct it.

If I made a comment in error I offer you an opportunity to correct it as well. If you refuse, it doesn't make me look bad. it just makes you look weak and allows me to put "stickers" or make observations to the nature of your attempt..

Like you know I am right but do not want to be associated with your peers who have no issue going down this road. Look I get it. you don't want to be a thanos or lex luthor, but that is the side you've chosen, so when a thanos or lex decides to stand up know you will indeed be tasked to follow.
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RE: Why believe the bible?
I rest my case, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why believe the bible?
I want to ask if Drich has finally lost it but I'm never sure he actually ever had it.
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RE: Why believe the bible?
One things for certain, he wouldn;t know what it was if you asked him.  Wink
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Why believe the bible?
(July 9, 2018 at 2:55 pm)Drich Wrote: Hitler demanded the country worship Him as God

I've seen this claimed, but I've never seen any documentation backing it up. Would you mind providing a citation for this?
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