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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 14, 2018 at 11:19 am
(July 14, 2018 at 9:01 am)DLJ Wrote: (July 13, 2018 at 2:34 pm)alpha male Wrote: Uh, because the indictments don't allege collusion between those Russian operatives and the Trump campaign.
Clinton and the DNC were sloppy and allowed themselves to be hacked. It has nothing to do with Trump.
Yup. That's my take on it.
I don't know why the USians aren't thanking the Ruskies for exposing the interference-tactics that gave them Trump.
And it wasn't 17 agencies... what was classic deflection by the Clinton campaign.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli.../92514592/
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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 14, 2018 at 11:22 am
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(July 14, 2018 at 11:19 am)Brian37 Wrote: (July 14, 2018 at 9:01 am)DLJ Wrote: Yup. That's my take on it.
I don't know why the USians aren't thanking the Ruskies for exposing the interference-tactics that gave them Trump.
And it wasn't 17 agencies... what was classic deflection by the Clinton campaign.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli.../92514592/ Sorry Brian
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...her-way-r/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...false.html
However it does not make a dent in the in the fact it looks bad for Trump and of anyone he's the one who makes himself look guilty .
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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 14, 2018 at 11:51 am
(July 13, 2018 at 11:48 pm)Libertarian God Wrote: Well if they ALWAYS do this, then how about we do something about it then? This is the moronic thinking coming from these people. They are totally fine with Russia interfering with our elections, but since their guy is in the WH, they will accept it. That is basically like a woman who is constantly beaten and abused by her husband keeps staying. Bold mine.
Did you seriously just make a comparison between Trumps base and women who are abused?
Totally NOT the same thing at all. Sometimes women stay because they don't have the means (financial or otherwise) to leave. Sometimes they stay because they think they are doing the right thing for their kids. Or sometimes because they don't know what else to do. Or that their husband is so controlling and manipulative, they don't think they can leave. No matter the reason - it is absolutely stupid that you would even make that kind of comparison.
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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 14, 2018 at 12:51 pm
(July 14, 2018 at 11:51 am)Joods Wrote: (July 13, 2018 at 11:48 pm)Libertarian God Wrote: Well if they ALWAYS do this, then how about we do something about it then? This is the moronic thinking coming from these people. They are totally fine with Russia interfering with our elections, but since their guy is in the WH, they will accept it. That is basically like a woman who is constantly beaten and abused by her husband keeps staying. Bold mine.
Did you seriously just make a comparison between Trumps base and women who are abused?
Totally NOT the same thing at all. Sometimes women stay because they don't have the means (financial or otherwise) to leave. Sometimes they stay because they think they are doing the right thing for their kids. Or sometimes because they don't know what else to do. Or that their husband is so controlling and manipulative, they don't think they can leave. No matter the reason - it is absolutely stupid that you would even make that kind of comparison.
It's basically like an abused woman, who won't leave her husband, because she likes his racist jokes...
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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 14, 2018 at 1:16 pm
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(July 13, 2018 at 2:34 pm)alpha male Wrote: (July 13, 2018 at 12:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Since 16 during his run, President Shithole denied 17 intel agencies. And has on an almost daily basis since in office has vilified our intel which ONCE AGAIN re confirms that Russia DID interfere with our elections. Rosenstein handed down 11 indictments of Russian operatives. So why does 45 keep calling this a "witch hunt"?
Uh, because the indictments don't allege collusion between those Russian operatives and the Trump campaign.
Clinton and the DNC were sloppy and allowed themselves to be hacked. It has nothing to do with Trump.
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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 14, 2018 at 9:21 pm
All Trumptards are stupid. Why would you expect anything else from A/M?
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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 15, 2018 at 11:16 am
(July 14, 2018 at 11:51 am)Joods Wrote: (July 13, 2018 at 11:48 pm)Libertarian God Wrote: Well if they ALWAYS do this, then how about we do something about it then? This is the moronic thinking coming from these people. They are totally fine with Russia interfering with our elections, but since their guy is in the WH, they will accept it. That is basically like a woman who is constantly beaten and abused by her husband keeps staying. Bold mine.
Did you seriously just make a comparison between Trumps base and women who are abused?
Totally NOT the same thing at all. Sometimes women stay because they don't have the means (financial or otherwise) to leave. Sometimes they stay because they think they are doing the right thing for their kids. Or sometimes because they don't know what else to do. Or that their husband is so controlling and manipulative, they don't think they can leave. No matter the reason - it is absolutely stupid that you would even make that kind of comparison.
I do think 45's supporters vote against their own self interests. I think GOP voters have been since Reagan. And instead of blaming Putin, 45 blamed the DNC. To me that is like blaming a rape victim. "You shouldn't have been so lazy with your servers" is like "You shouldn't have worn that short skirt". Victim blaming is victim blaming, no matter the crime.
You might argue this is not a good analogy sure, but it still remains it is a matter of spreading misinformation and propaganda. Conservatism is anti freedom, anti pluralism and anti worker. It is useful for the rich to prey upon nationalism and racism. Russia and China are conservative nations, not liberal. The confusion is caused by selling the respective supporters the idea that "just follow" which is authoritarianism that uses propaganda to control the masses.
Memes of nationalism are a great way for one party states to arise.
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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 15, 2018 at 1:55 pm
There are plenty of other situations that I'm quite sure could be compared here. Using an abusive situation and victim blaming wasn't appropriate. That was pretty much my point.
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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 15, 2018 at 2:22 pm
Quote:I do think 45's supporters vote against their own self interests.
Yup.
And they always think it will get better.
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RE: 11 more indictments of Russians
July 17, 2018 at 2:29 am
I think one question needs to be asked after today: what does Putin have on Trump that is making him act this way? Trump is a moron, sure. But nobody sucks up this much to someone unless that someone has something extremely damming to that person.
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