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RE: Eternal bliss
August 29, 2018 at 9:40 am
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(August 29, 2018 at 6:11 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (August 28, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Nah, I don't like the way you talk to me on these forums or what you say about me. Your demand for me to answer you here doesn't help either.
I will have to opt out of engaging with you, sorry.
Nope. What you really do not like is to have your cherished religious notions robustly challenged. So much so that you have no option but to run away. That's fine. But do not ever pretend that you are NOT running away. That is exactly what you are doing and nothing else.
You're right Abby!
(August 29, 2018 at 6:42 am)IWNKYAAIMI Wrote: I've come to the conclusion that these believers are not convinced about their blissful eternities, seems to me it's more the fear of hell or not existing that's the driving force here.
The original question was a simple one, or so I thought...
Is there something about my answer to your OP that you found lacking? If so, I wouldn't mind further clarifying my thoughts.
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 29, 2018 at 10:10 am
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(August 29, 2018 at 8:44 am)Little Rik Wrote: (August 28, 2018 at 9:04 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is nothing confusing except you are claiming you are confused. If love loves goodness it hates it's opposite, it's negation. Those who rebel against the Compassionate Lord, deserve hell. Those who deserve hell but seek his pardon and seek his grace, will find him the most compassionate, and he will aide them through his mercy and help and power, in ways they could not imagine.
Those who love what has no value but is exact opposite, the negative value, the evil, as much or more then God, and mix good and evil, are the definition of injustice and evil, and their place is hell forever.
Sorry MK but you keep on avoiding my question which is...................WOULD YOU SEND YOUR OWN KIDS (YOUR BLOOD) TO A PERMANENT HELL BECAUSE THEY DO SOMETHING BAD OR DO NOT BELIEVE IN YOU? The question is irrelevant. As far as believing in me, I am not on par with God who faith is required in by all creation. And doing something bad is not why people go to hell, it's when they equate evil with good and mosh it all up and are insincere to God and turn away from his proofs and rebel against the light and try to put it out with conjecture, that they deserve hell.
That and being with the oppressors.
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 29, 2018 at 10:28 am
(August 29, 2018 at 10:10 am)MysticKnight Wrote: (August 29, 2018 at 8:44 am)Little Rik Wrote: Sorry MK but you keep on avoiding my question which is...................WOULD YOU SEND YOUR OWN KIDS (YOUR BLOOD) TO A PERMANENT HELL BECAUSE THEY DO SOMETHING BAD OR DO NOT BELIEVE IN YOU? The question is irrelevant. As far as believing in me, I am not on par with God who faith is required in by all creation. And doing something bad is not why people go to hell, it's when they equate evil with good and mosh it all up and are insincere to God and turn away from his proofs and rebel against the light and try to put it out with conjecture, that they deserve hell.
That and being with the oppressors.
1) I would have thought that God is your real father.
So God to you can not be compared with a real father isn't it MK?
Who is he then? 
2) Have you got any evidence that some people deserve hell?
Have you ever heard God saying so?
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 29, 2018 at 10:32 am
I definitely always knew oppressors and their helpers and those who watch by, deserve hell through the signs of God within myself.
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 29, 2018 at 10:35 am
(August 29, 2018 at 10:28 am)Little Rik Wrote: (August 29, 2018 at 10:10 am)MysticKnight Wrote: The question is irrelevant. As far as believing in me, I am not on par with God who faith is required in by all creation. And doing something bad is not why people go to hell, it's when they equate evil with good and mosh it all up and are insincere to God and turn away from his proofs and rebel against the light and try to put it out with conjecture, that they deserve hell.
That and being with the oppressors.
1) I would have thought that God is your real father.
So God to you can not be compared with a real father isn't it MK?
Who is he then?
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 29, 2018 at 10:41 am
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(August 29, 2018 at 10:35 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (August 29, 2018 at 10:28 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) I would have thought that God is your real father.
So God to you can not be compared with a real father isn't it MK?
Who is he then?
Gee, I didn't know that your father look that bad. 
Luckily I didn't ask you for a date? 
(August 29, 2018 at 10:32 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I definitely always knew oppressors and their helpers and those who watch by, deserve hell through the signs of God within myself.
Ok.
Thanks for making a clearing among the fog. 
Now you finally admit that you haven't got any evidence that God said that bad people go to hell. 
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 29, 2018 at 11:02 am
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Exactly, it's absurd to think that god sends people to hell..he sends karma to rape them for dog kicking. Everyone knows that.
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 30, 2018 at 12:04 am
(August 29, 2018 at 10:41 am)Little Rik Wrote: Thanks for making a clearing among the fog.
Now you finally admit that you haven't got any evidence that God said that bad people go to hell.
Hey Rik,
There's a guy on the forums who says he can logically disprove the existence of God. Do you think you can demonstrate otherwise?
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 30, 2018 at 4:11 am
(August 29, 2018 at 9:40 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Is there something about my answer to your OP that you found lacking? If so, I wouldn't mind further clarifying my thoughts.
Yes I wouldn't mind you doing that actually. I gather that you think heaven is more a state of mind rather than an actual existence (have I understood you correctly?) If so, do you think that all your memories and experiences are wiped clean? Do you enter this heaven with all the knowledge that you possess now? I ask this because I often think about people who have endured terrible lives, are they 'fixed' magically in your heaven?
Let's take someone who has developed dementia in later life as an example, what would be your take on their situation, or maybe a severely disabled person who has endured an uphill struggle all their life? Is their heavenly state of mind going to be on a par with yours?
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RE: Eternal bliss
August 30, 2018 at 4:59 am
(August 29, 2018 at 10:41 am)Little Rik Wrote: (August 29, 2018 at 10:35 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
Gee, I didn't know that your father look that bad.
Luckily I didn't ask you for a date?
(August 29, 2018 at 10:32 am)MysticKnight Wrote: I definitely always knew oppressors and their helpers and those who watch by, deserve hell through the signs of God within myself.
Ok.
Thanks for making a clearing among the fog.
Now you finally admit that you haven't got any evidence that God said that bad people go to hell.
Matthew 13:37-40: 'He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares [weeds] are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.'
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