When is a Religious Belief Delusional?

[Amarok]

"Goodness" must have another definition then.  His god seems like a cunt.

But min your using god to determine that he's a cunt .Because god is goodness because he is because he is because he is........................

[Neo-Scholastic]

[Anomalocaris]

In Wooters worldview goodness exists in magic fairyland

Wooters believes he is entitled to make shit up to browbeat, conjure, deceive, threaten, tempt or otherwise cause other people to adapt a world view designed to be more pleasing to Wooters by virtual of placing wooter’s made up shit at a higher level than it deserves, and it also by happenstance seem to elevate Wooters in the eyes of his respective victims by making it seem conceivable that Wooters has more valuable access to wooter’s own bullshit than other people.

[Amarok]

In Wooters worldview goodness exists in magic fairyland

Wooters believes he is entitled to make shit up to browbeat, conjure, deceive, threaten, tempt or otherwise cause other people to adapt a world view designed to be more pleasing to Wooters by virtual of placing his made up shit at a higher level than it deserves, and also elevate Wooters in the eyes of his respective victims by making it seem conceivable that Wooters has more valuable access to his own bullshit than other people.

Truth

[Minimalist]

He used to be, when he wrote that book. He's reformed. His objective morality is much better now.

Wait.... these are the same asswipes who insist that their god is "unchanging."

“And also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His mind; for He is not a man that He should change His mind” (1 Samuel 15:29).

Must be another of those annoying contradictions, huh?

[Neo-Scholastic]

I suppose at the end of the day we are all influenced by various experiences and sources.  If reading the bible or Aquinas or Confucius helps someone to focus their ideas regarding morality that doesn't do any harm.  But if they conceive themselves to be heeling to divine orders their humanity is diminished and they will become a tool for somebody.

I agree with all this. Whether something is harmful or not has no bearing on whether or not something is true or delusional. And I think you know that from your posts. Others seem to be avoiding the issue.

Just to push you a little further is it delusional to believe the Gospel accounts are historical documents in the same sense as Plutarch's Lives?

[Minimalist]

Yes, because some of the people Plutarch speaks of are real.  And a few are mythic heroes.

[Whateverist]

Note the bold. Please provide a list of the "indisputable evidence" that there is no God. Absence such a list, such a belief by definition is not a delusion. Note that this is not merely "in spite of no evidence". It is in the face of indisputable evidence to the contrary. 

Even worse for your position is that you cannot even adequately undercut the evidence that people rely on for the religious beliefs. Who's delusional again?

Here's the proof.  If there's a god he will surely strick me down with great fury and righteous anger 60 seconds after I call him a fucktard.

God's a fucktard.

Anyone heard from Wololo lately?

[LastPoet]

This is the stupidest thing I've  read in a long time. Nothing happens if you murder? Nothing happens if you molest children? Nothing happens if you rob a bank. Pleas, rob, do everyone a favor and go back to making innane videos.

Some escape justice. Its work in progress. It may shatter your mind but I believe a few dozens died without regret for raping murder and child abuse. Many of them also claimed more sanctimonious than you. And as to molest children, glass roof and all that.

Get it into your head, bad people do bad things and eventually die unpunished, regrettably, but we as society are doing our best to find those doing that. Your god is as usefull as a bag of rocks, that the whole humanity is carrying.

[Whateverist]

I suppose at the end of the day we are all influenced by various experiences and sources.  If reading the bible or Aquinas or Confucius helps someone to focus their ideas regarding morality that doesn't do any harm.  But if they conceive themselves to be heeling to divine orders their humanity is diminished and they will become a tool for somebody.

I agree with all this. Whether something is harmful or not has no bearing on whether or not something is true or delusional. And I think you know that from your posts. Others seem to be avoiding the issue.

Just to push you a little further is it delusional to believe the Gospel accounts are historical documents in the same sense as Plutarch's Lives?

I don't know.  History is a hard area for me to think about in these terms.  Confirmation bias is always in play.