Miracles and their place, and Atheists.

[Mystic]

My central point and other things are really irrelevant, is that without miracles in the open, people are excused to not believe in most cases.

[downbeatplumb]

I'm fairly sure mystic used to write more coherently than this. I wonder what happened.

[Pat Mustard]

My central point and other things are really irrelevant, is that without miracles in the open, people are excused to not believe in most cases.

That's because they're too clever to believe in imaginary shit. Just because you listen to the voices in your head, it doesn't follow that the rest of us are also insane.

[brewer]

Gosh MK, ya got me. My beliefs (or lack) and life can be summed up by "sheer hate".

[LastPoet]

Gosh MK, ya got me. My beliefs (or lack) and life can be summed up by "sheer hate".

In portugal we have an ironic saying: Call others whores before they call you. Meh it sounds better in portuguese, direct tanslation FTW.

[Whateverist]

Condense and leave only clear points. I had hard time following what your saying.

The summary is because miracles are not in the open,  we should excuse people for their lack of faith in God or the path, because of lack of power to acknowledge it.

Thanks a bunch!

[LastPoet]

My central point and other things are really irrelevant, is that without miracles in the open, people are excused to not believe in most cases.

Phew, I was shivering in my knees wishing you excused me for not believing the bulshit you do. You give your deranged thoughts too much valor, dynamite guy-

[Brian37]

Would be awesome if you could condense your post to a few main points. I had hard time following what your saying.

His point is simple, he likes what he likes, and no matter what, dreams are dreams and utopias are utopias, no matter how fictional they are.

I really wish his logic worked the way he wished, I would be married to Ann McCarthy or Angelina Jolie.

[Angrboda]

The reason miracles aren't in the open is because people are less credulous today than people in the past. The conclusion is that miracles aren't in the open today, not because the occurrence of miracles has changed, but because people have changed such that they no longer mistakenly see miracles where there are none. That you choose to believe less reliable evidence rather than the more reliable modern situation is because you will believe regardless of whether it's rational to do so or not. You need religion because you are not strong. Your panicked inability to handle more than two weeks of ambiguity over the truth as an atheist shows that. You are a weak willed and deluded person who believes because it fulfills his needs, not because it is true.

[purplepurpose]

Would be awesome if you could condense your post to a few main points. I had hard time following what your saying.

His point is simple, he likes what he likes, and no matter what, dreams are dreams and utopias are utopias, no matter how fictional they are.

I really wish his logic worked the way he wished, I would be married to Ann McCarthy or Angelina Jolie.

God with his Heaven Mansion isn't some dream goal. It's a nightmare. Constant guilt, fear cycle "at the gunpoint" of hell. I think, Atlas like other mature theists thinks he can get perfect life and if believing in a nightmare is needed for such goal, he is still wants it.