Question about permanent death

[purplepurpose]

How can something made of matter like a brain can produce something abstract and superior to it such as the consciousness?
Have you ever seen a stone or a plant that give birth to a human?
Absurd.
Atheists that think in this way are back in the stone age.

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Rahn I don t really care whether you stay in the thread or not.
In any case you are wrong once more.
Consciousness reside in the brain only once exist a parallelism among the two.
Once this is gone there is no more reason for the consciousness to stay.
Why should she?
Why something abstract should be bound to die after all?
Have you ever seen a dead consciousness next to a dead body?
So who give you the evidence that the consciousness die when the bodybrain die?
You guess it as you guess that NDEs are not real because according to you there is no God.

Can you provide solid scientific evidence? Video or scientific recordings of supernatural things.

It's either you have good enough evidence or you just speculate/tell fairy tales.

[unfogged]

How can something made of matter like a brain can produce something abstract and superior to it such as the consciousness?

"I don't understand this, therefore magic" is not a convincing argument.

Have you ever seen a stone or a plant that give birth to a human?
Absurd.

Yes, your attempts at analogies generally are.

Consciousness reside in the brain only once exist a parallelism among the two.

Please provide testable evidence of a consciousness that is not connected to a brain. Failing that, please describe a mechanism that could allow a consciousness to exist without being connected to a brain.

Have you ever seen a dead consciousness next to a dead body?

I've never seen evidence of any consciousness in any state except where there is a working brain.

So who give you the evidence that the consciousness die when the bodybrain die?

When you provide an example of a consciousness not attached to a brain it will be considered. NDEs still have a brain involved; it is malfunctioning which is the most likely explanation for the strange experiences reported. They do not support the idea that consciousness survives the death of the brain.

You guess it as you guess that NDEs are not real because according to you there is no God.

NDEs are real; there is plenty of evidence that many people who are near death have experiences. The problem is that your interpretation is ridiculous.

[Rahn127]

One would think with the trillions & trillion of life forms that have died, we would have an entire planet covered in out of body consciousnesses.

Maybe neutrinos keep the planet clean.

[Fireball]

One would think with the trillions & trillion of life forms that have died, we would have an entire planet covered in out of body consciousnesses.

Maybe neutrinos keep the planet clean.

No shit! I've read where the current population of termites on the planet is estimated to be a quadrillion. That's just termites. I'm not going to go look it up, but I bet you are low by probably 6 orders of magnitude on the number of things that have had an existence her on earth. Maybe 12 orders of magnitude, now that I think a bit. Maybe I will go do some research. It has to be a really big number...like Avogadro's number big.

[Alan V]

Yes, death is permanent.

[Angrboda]

Yes, death is permanent.

Apparently stupidity is as well.

[Little Rik]

Time and time again you guys show how you are left in the stone age of thinking.
If this universal reality would be the real reality than you would have a good point in saying that trillion of small creatures would not have enough space to be reincarnated on our planet.
That is understandable if that would be the case.

Obviously the system doesn t work like that.
Beside the fact that in this vast universe there are billion of other planets where life is possible in the mind of the mastermind God all this universe is but a mental projection and in a mental projection there is no problem of space so a multitude of dimensions can accomodate a multitude of creature.
This of course will sound as pure fantasy to any atheists but as you guys will grow up mentaly speaking and leave the stone age you will surely understand what I mean.
As far as NDEs.
Well, well if you do not believe doctors when they say that the chap is really dead and if you do not believe independent witness that validate these experiences then too bad for you because your contradictions will only keep in sewer of the stone age.

[Alan V]

As far as NDEs.
Well, well if you do not believe doctors when they say that the chap is really dead and if you do not believe independent witness that validate these experiences then too bad for you because your contradictions will only keep in sewer of the stone age.

But they weren't dead if they came back to life to tell their stories.

I've experimented enough with lucid dreaming to understand that you can't trust anyone's interpretations of their experiences when they are lying in bed and their brain isn't working normally. Too much dreamlike content is heavily influenced by our concurrent expectations.

[Cod]

Beside the fact that in this vast universe there are billion of other planets where life is possible in the mind of the mastermind God all this universe is but a mental projection and in a mental projection there is no problem of space so a multitude of dimensions can accomodate a multitude of creature.

What the hell are you on about?

This of course will sound as pure fantasy to any atheists but as you guys will grow up mentaly speaking and leave the stone age you will surely understand what I mean.

I doubt it.

As far as NDEs.
Well, well if you do not believe doctors when they say that the chap is really dead and if you do not believe independent witness that validate these experiences then too bad for you because your contradictions will only keep in sewer of the stone age.

Nobody is saying people don't have NDE's. We are saying that they are not a convincing argument for your brand of life after death.

[Little Rik]

Sorry guys but super evidence is there.
Everything is perfectly clear.
Doctors, accidents, hospitals, witnesses that verified these experiences.
The lot.
On the other hand you got nothing to contradict these experiences.
Oh, sorry.
I should not say nothing because you got your thick ego that prevent you from say.........I WAS. WRONG......WRONG ALL THE WAY.