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If theists understood "evidence"
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RE: If theists understood "evidence"
(October 8, 2018 at 7:21 am)Kit Wrote:
(October 8, 2018 at 7:18 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don’t think that you are fully articulating your thoughts here. But I understand It seems that you got yourself backed into a corner with your statements, and this is just a way to get out of them.

Convenient for you.

Unfortunately, I see past it.

No surprise.

I’m not the one is avoiding discussion. But I’m not going to keep going back and forth like this. If you decide that you want to support your statements, rather than run away from them, I’ll be here. I am interested in why you think this.

Have a good day!
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: If theists understood "evidence"
(October 8, 2018 at 7:25 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I’m not the one is avoiding discussion. But I’m not going to keep going back and forth like this. If you decide that you want to support your statements, rather than run away from them, I’ll be here. I am interested in why you think this.

Have a good day!

Good day, delusional sir.
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#13
RE: If theists understood "evidence"
Quote:I’m not the one is avoiding discussion. But I’m not going to keep going back and forth like this. If you decide that you want to support your statements, rather than run away from them, I’ll be here. I am interested in why you think this. 

Have a good day!
Your only interested in playing apologist games till everyone's sick of debunking your nonsense or arguing in circles with you then just walks away. Only to then have proclaim a fake victory then try it all over again. Sorry your song and dance got old ages ago no matter how much you try and pretend to "just be curious" the smoke screen has long faded and the apologist preacher in sheep's clothing is clear as day.

(October 8, 2018 at 7:11 am)Kit Wrote:
(October 8, 2018 at 7:08 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Would it be fair to say then, that it is not so much about evidence, but an a priori belief, and/or personal incredulity?

That which is personal should be kept as such rather than blurted as universal.

After all, how does personal become universal except through an agenda?
Ah trying his "this isn't really about evidence line " or worst disparately to shift the burden onto you because he has nothing .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: If theists understood "evidence"
(October 8, 2018 at 7:10 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: A group of four Jehovah's Witnesses knocked at my door a couple of months ago. When I asked them what evidence they had for God's existence, one of them made a sweeping gesture toward the woods in back of my house, saying, "There's your evidence right there!"

"No," I replied, "that's only evidence that I own several acres of wooded property. Evolution is a perfectly adequate explanation of how all those trees and woodland creatures got there."

"What is your religion?" their leader asked.

"I have no religion or god," I replied. "I'm an atheist."

They all shrugged their shoulders and left. Intellectual cowards! Dodgy


You exhausted their arguments quickly, which means they had no intellectual wherewithal to fall back on.  That's the problem with arguing with people who are only trained to certain beliefs.

But perhaps you will make them think about it later.

That reminds me.  I attended a barbeque with some relatives on Saturday.  One 53-year-old man who had visited the Creation Museum in Kentucky a few weeks ago on vacation was discussing with a 70-year-old woman how dinosaurs fit into Biblical accounts, and how the Genesis story of the first people made sense.  I could only think that those two were largely deprived intellectually.  They couldn't simply recognize the Genesis stories as mythology.  And the woman concluded that the Bible was intended to make people think!
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RE: If theists understood "evidence"
This seems like the same response I have gotten when asking similar questions of atheists claims that theists just need to be educated or lack critical thinking .   It's appears (to me) to be nothing more than sophism, and a way to disparage others, without any real solid backing or reason for the claim.   As usual, the result is just senseless attacks on Christianity, with nothing to support it.   I wonder if that fits under the prime directive rule?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: If theists understood "evidence"
Isn't it amazing that people will believe something, just because someone told a story??

Know anyone who is guilty of that behavior? Know anyone who got all wound up, and screamed and yelled about that story, even though they had no actual evidence????



Go look up the Kavanagh thread........


Hilarious
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RE: If theists understood "evidence"
Kit, if have time share your detailed opinion on levels of scientific evidence like in this pic. Simply saying that evidence is awesome and faith sucks isn't enough.

[Image: cls_feb_3701.jpg]
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RE: If theists understood "evidence"
Quote:Isn't it amazing that people will believe something, just because someone told a story??

Know anyone who is guilty of that behavior? Know anyone who got all wound up, and screamed and yelled about that story, even though they had no actual evidence????



Go look up the Kavanagh thread........
Too bad that thread is nothing like you describe Dodgy

(October 8, 2018 at 8:48 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Kit, if have time share your detailed opinion on levels of scientific evidence like in this pic. Simply saying that evidence is awesome and faith sucks isn't enough.

[Image: cls_feb_3701.jpg]
But faith does suck
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: If theists understood "evidence"
(October 8, 2018 at 9:06 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:Isn't it amazing that people will believe something, just because someone told a story??

Know anyone who is guilty of that behavior? Know anyone who got all wound up, and screamed and yelled about that story, even though they had no actual evidence????



Go look up the Kavanagh thread........
Too bad that thread is nothing like you describe Dodgy

(October 8, 2018 at 8:48 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Kit, if have time share your detailed opinion on levels of scientific evidence like in this pic. Simply saying that evidence is awesome and faith sucks isn't enough.

[Image: cls_feb_3701.jpg]
But faith does suck

You sound like a Baptist looking down your nose at a Mormon - because the Mormon doesn't believe the " real" story.
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RE: If theists understood "evidence"
(October 8, 2018 at 9:10 am)onlinebiker Wrote:
(October 8, 2018 at 9:06 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Too bad that thread is nothing like you describe Dodgy

But faith does suck

You sound like a Baptist looking down your nose at a Mormon - because the Mormon doesn't believe the " real" story.
You entitled to an opinion no matter how wrong it is  Dodgy
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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