Just out of curiosity (and I'm being serious), are these interpretations always done by men, or do women get a say in it? Because the translations and interpretations seem to vary, and I'm wondering how many women are involved in deciding how far you can beat your woman.
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January 25, 2019 at 6:20 pm
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(January 24, 2019 at 7:04 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Or if you fear arrogance, like magic book says. God is great! The OP included the correct accurate translation which is "rebellion". Using "arrogance" is a sexist translation that has no base. نشوز -noshooz; which is the word used in the verse- doesn't mean "arrogance"; it means "rebellion". Please read the OP again; and yes; God is great.  (January 25, 2019 at 6:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(January 24, 2019 at 7:04 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Or if you fear arrogance, like magic book says. God is great! Which God is great? Lots of claims worldwide and even prior to the monotheisms of Jews, Christians and Muslims. RE: Beating women in Islam
January 25, 2019 at 6:38 pm
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(January 24, 2019 at 9:48 pm)Phoque Wrote: Just out of curiosity (and I'm being serious), are these interpretations always done by men, or do women get a say in it? Because the translations and interpretations seem to vary, and I'm wondering how many women are involved in deciding how far you can beat your woman. God is not a woman or a man. He is God. There are tons of female religious scholars in the history of Islam; it's not the fault of Islam that the world is sexist. But to clear Islam's position on women; this verse from the Quran is enough: Quote:Surah 66, The Quran: The example I should be following -and aim for- as these verses state as a believer, is an example of 2 women. 2 women. Also; I advise you to read the OP because I did say exactly what the argument you make is: Quote:AtlasS33 said (in the OP): (January 25, 2019 at 6:22 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(January 25, 2019 at 6:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The OP included the correct accurate translation which is "rebellion". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangdi The absolute whole; aka Supreme Deity; aka the God of The Universe; aka The Father; aka Allah; aka God. All civilizations knew him; Brian. (January 25, 2019 at 6:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(January 24, 2019 at 7:04 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Or if you fear arrogance, like magic book says. God is great! Great, if you fear rebellion, then hit a bitch. God wills it!
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RE: Beating women in Islam
January 25, 2019 at 7:03 pm
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(January 25, 2019 at 6:57 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:(January 25, 2019 at 6:20 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The OP included the correct accurate translation which is "rebellion". Using "arrogance" is a sexist translation that has no base. This is also mentioned in the OP -that I advised you to read-: Quote:AtlasS33 said in the OP: I advise you again to read the OP. 
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January 25, 2019 at 7:28 pm
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(January 25, 2019 at 7:17 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: No theist ever met an argument he wasn't willing to repeat after a suitable time for people to forget him having been refuted on it. It's a belief; not a chosen argument. Also; nobody refuted a thing. My theories are met with counter theories, and the struggle between the two is still on. It depends on the reader's opinion Jormungandr; but believe me nobody won or lost yet; the false theory will be refuted soon; right after our death: either I was wrong or you were wrong; and maybe we'll even see in this life who knows? But in my religion; God is already great and the truth already won. RE: Beating women in Islam
January 25, 2019 at 7:59 pm
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(January 25, 2019 at 7:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Why? Says you can beat a bitch. Amen.(January 25, 2019 at 6:57 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Great, if you fear rebellion, then hit a bitch. God wills it! I have a question. Do I have to do them in order....? What if I want to withhold the peener first, or beat a bitch -then- withhold the peener..and after all of that say "you know what you did!". Would that be kosher?
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January 25, 2019 at 9:02 pm
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(January 25, 2019 at 7:59 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:(January 25, 2019 at 7:03 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: This is also mentioned in the OP -that I advised you to read-:Why? Says you can beat a bitch. Amen. Thank you for admitting that you have no useful content to share with us after my last post. Please read topics again before you comment |
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