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Beating women in Islam
RE: Beating women in Islam
Yeah, and you won't find the word "cat" in a spanish language text, either, therefore there are no cats in spanish speaking countries.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
Ah, another bad day to be a woman in Muslim country





I mean what's the matter with this guy using Koran to dehumanize women? Doesn't he know that Koran is so pro women that it's basically feminist literature?
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And the No True Scotsman fallacy, having evolved into the No True Christian fallacy, makes another evolutionary leap to become the No True Muslim fallacy.

Evolution works, bitches!
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RE: Beating women in Islam
Fake Messiah Wrote: (April 3, 2019 at 3:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Wrote:Usually the governments of these places are corrupted to the core; so tribal regions are kept off-the radar unless there is a militia targeting the government.
Quote:Yeah you're always blaming Muslims for being wrong fractions but you got to face the truth: Islam can not provide the secular constitutional framework necessary for running a modern state.

I mean even if you look at Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948 and compare it with Islamic Laws you can see how primitive Islam is.


Which Islam?
Specify the sect; please.

Quote: Wrote:I mean look at these acts from Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 2: “Everyone is entitled to all rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, color, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.”


The Quran said so -and its followers fought hordes of Kuffar for 1400 years- to make this a reality, the Quran:

Quote: Wrote:Sura 3, The Quran:
https://quran.com/3/195?translations=

Sahih International

(195) And their Lord responded to them, "Never will I allow to be lost the work of [any] worker among you, whether male or female; you are of one another. So those who emigrated or were evicted from their homes or were harmed in My cause or fought or were killed - I will surely remove from them their misdeeds, and I will surely admit them to gardens beneath which rivers flow as reward from Allah, and Allah has with Him the best reward."

"Their Lord" = Allah. He is our lord.
Actually; we Muslims knew the word human rights in times where people were getting cooked alive in Europe for defying kings.

Quote: Wrote:Article 3: “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.”


This is what Muslims said for centuries, and got fought viciously for saying so, the Quran says:

Quote: Wrote:Sura 2, The Quran:
https://quran.com/2/256?translations=

Sahih International

(256) There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.


Quote: Wrote:While in Islam Women are inferior under Islamic law; their testimony in a court of law is worth half that of a man; their movement is strictly restricted; they cannot marry non-Muslims.


You were answered in previous post. I will not repeat myself

Quote: Wrote:Non-Muslims living in Muslim countries have inferior status under Islamic law; they may not testify against a Muslim. And your despised Saudi Arabia is just following a tradition of Muhammad who said, “Two religions cannot exist in the country of Arabia,” non-Muslims are forbidden to practice their religion, build churches, possess Bibles, etc.

No. I'm despised in Saudi Arabia for tribal reasons mainly. Currently it is very welcomed in the kingdom to drink alcohol and have sex openly, under the rule of MBS.
If the forum rules allow it, I would've posted twitter links that show the amount of sexual activity especially the female sexual activity in the kingdom.

Quote: Wrote:Grow the fuck up Atlass! It's not these people themselves but teachings of Islam that corrupt them.

It depends on the version of Islam you choose; and what tribalism + Middle Eastern habits you toss with it. It's a mixture enough to cause  stuff like 9/11.

Quote: Wrote:Slavery is recognized in the Koran. Muslims are allowed to cohabit with any of their female slaves (sura 4.3); they are allowed to take possession of married women if they are slaves (sura 4.28). The helpless position of the slave in regard to his or her master illustrates the helpless position of the false gods of Arabia in the presence of their Creator (sura 16.77).

Cherry picking that was answered millions of times on these boards.
The first verse didn't even contain the word "slave" neither in English nor in Arabic.

The second  verse doesn't even speak about women  !!!!

Quote: Wrote:https://quran.com/4/28?translations=20
Sura 4, The Quran:

(28) And Allah wants to lighten for you [your difficulties]; and mankind was created weak.


You're not serious. Please come back when you have something serious to say.
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RE: Beating women in Islam
(April 9, 2019 at 10:03 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
Quote: Wrote:I mean look at these acts from Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 2: “Everyone is entitled to all rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, color, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.”


The Quran said so -and its followers fought hordes of Kuffar for 1400 years- to make this a reality, the Quran
Yep the Quran predeated the UN declaration of human rights by 1400 years!!!!
Is this worth a reply......well,usually not.

Nevertheless: Please provide all the documents that show how Islam fought the evil Kuffar tradition of slavery. I am sure there was no slavery in Islam, was it? I am sure, Islam was fighting slavery for the past 1400 years, wasnt it? And Allah (may the force be with him) made it unmistakenly clear that slavery is a bad thing, so there was never a misinterpretation about that, was it?


(April 9, 2019 at 10:03 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
Quote: Wrote:Article 3: “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.”

This is what Muslims said for centuries, and got fought viciously for saying so
Yes thats why Islam was spread with the sword, in order to protect all those who were forcibly converted by conquest.
Thats why the Ottomans *asked nicely* in occupied balcans for your boys to make Janissaries out of them, so they could proted all those who were forcibly converted earlier (see above).
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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RE: Beating women in Islam
The authors of magic book, apparently, had nothing serious to say.  Maybe they should come back when they do?

In any case, for it''s time, islam was fairly progressive when it came to the issue of sex trafficking and slavery of any other kind. Progressive for it's time is a massive caveat, ofc, lol. That time being 1400 years ago.......

I think that modern day moderates revulsion to the subject is admirable, but it doesn't change the contents of magic book or the reality of the relationship between slavery and the society that produced it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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