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RE: Big Bang
October 13, 2018 at 11:40 am
A chicken!
Or maybe it was the egg.
No.no. no.. It was definertely the chicken.
Unless of course damnit it was the egg.
OR not.
Maybe.
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Bob? Can I change my choice to door number 3??
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RE: Big Bang
October 13, 2018 at 11:50 am
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(October 13, 2018 at 10:55 am)robvalue Wrote: No idea. If I was forced to guess, I’d say the energy contained in our reality has always existed somewhere, somehow. Whether we are self contained and it came from outside, or whether we're in a bang/crunch cycle, or whatever, I couldn’t say.
But maybe this did all pop up out of nowhere. However illogical that may seem to someone, that doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
The total net energy contained in our universe could be zero. We need not have borrowed anything to come into existence, and since our universe may sum up to nothing even now, it seems unreasonable to suppose to had to have been something before it has become nothing.
Quantum physics seems to say something could actually be nothing, therefore something could most certainly come from nothing.
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RE: Big Bang
October 13, 2018 at 12:01 pm
(October 13, 2018 at 11:50 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: (October 13, 2018 at 10:55 am)robvalue Wrote: No idea. If I was forced to guess, I’d say the energy contained in our reality has always existed somewhere, somehow. Whether we are self contained and it came from outside, or whether we're in a bang/crunch cycle, or whatever, I couldn’t say.
But maybe this did all pop up out of nowhere. However illogical that may seem to someone, that doesn’t mean it can’t happen.
The total net energy contained in our universe could be zero. We need not have borrowed anything to come into existence, and since our universe may sum up to nothing even now, it seems unreasonable to suppose to had to have been something before it has become nothing.
Quantum physics seems to say something could actually be nothing, therefore something could most certainly can come from nothing.
The last part is really impossible to understand by definition.
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RE: Big Bang
October 13, 2018 at 12:25 pm
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(October 13, 2018 at 12:01 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: (October 13, 2018 at 11:50 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: The total net energy contained in our universe could be zero. We need not have borrowed anything to come into existence, and since our universe may sum up to nothing even now, it seems unreasonable to suppose to had to have been something before it has become nothing.
Quantum physics seems to say something could actually be nothing, therefore something could most certainly can come from nothing.
The last part is really impossible to understand by definition.
If something is merely impossible to understand by definition, that that thing is alright and the definition is crap.
(October 13, 2018 at 8:00 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Deadpan posts are taken at face value. That's why Gawd gave you smilies.
I think the post just moved.
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RE: Big Bang
October 13, 2018 at 12:34 pm
(October 13, 2018 at 11:40 am)onlinebiker Wrote: A chicken!
Or maybe it was the egg.
Evolutionarily, the egg came first.
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RE: Big Bang
October 13, 2018 at 12:54 pm
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Big Bang
October 14, 2018 at 7:53 am
(October 13, 2018 at 3:36 am)purplepurpose Wrote: 13.8 Billions of years ago our universe started with the Big Bang. Question: energy and matter that created Big Bang was always there/eternal or it just Magically popped in to existence?
The Universe is likely infinite and eternal, that is, without a beginning, an end, or, an edge. The following theorem can be found in Professor David Griffith's book, Quantum Mechanics (both his 1st, 2nd, and, I presume, now 3rd edition):
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RE: Big Bang
October 14, 2018 at 8:08 am
(October 14, 2018 at 7:53 am)Jehanne Wrote:
Obviously.
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RE: Big Bang
October 17, 2018 at 4:18 pm
(October 13, 2018 at 4:33 am)ignoramus Wrote: Neither.
We are probably one of infinite universes that pop into existence by borrowing energy from a neigbouring universe/brane.
I'm sure it sounds weird and illogical but if we were to see from the outside, it may make sense. Then again, how far can an ape brain expand?
We may be asking a little too much to expect to know or unravel the universes deepest mysteries. We may never know.
There's only so much we can learn about a system with which we are intimately intertwined, by studying it as parts of the system ourselves. If there is such a thing as a "multiverse", we may someday find a way to study our universe from the "outside", as it were, and we may be able to answer questions like that.
But of course there will be then be new questions about the multiverse that we can't answer.
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RE: Big Bang
October 17, 2018 at 11:02 pm
So what? There are models of eternal cosmology -- just pick your favorite. Science doesn't need to explain everything, just some things. Religion, on the other hand, explains nothing.
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