Right Wing Tactics

[Belacqua]

If I'm not alarmed that a caravan of refugees is walking towards us, I must want to let them in the country with  no vetting and I also must want them to spread diseases when they get here. And if I'm not against turning them all away, then I should house a refugee family in my house or I'm being a hypocrite....

Of course, I wouldn't mind a roommate who would put in a good day's work for their room and board, so it turns out that being willing to house a refugee is completely beside the point. Sigh.

The people in the caravan have been very public about what they want. They aren't being sneaky.

If they apply for asylum at the border, they are following the law. If they are rejected without review, the US is breaking the law.

[onlinebiker]

If I'm not alarmed that a caravan of refugees is walking towards us, I must want to let them in the country with  no vetting and I also must want them to spread diseases when they get here. And if I'm not against turning them all away, then I should house a refugee family in my house or I'm being a hypocrite....

Of course, I wouldn't mind a roommate who would put in a good day's work for their room and board, so it turns out that being willing to house a refugee is completely beside the point. Sigh.

If dem's should be willing to house a refugee, repub's should be willing to house an unwanted baby.

Libertarians would be willing to house nymphomaniacs.



Heh

[Minimalist]

If I'm not alarmed that a caravan of refugees is walking towards us, I must want to let them in the country with  no vetting and I also must want them to spread diseases when they get here. And if I'm not against turning them all away, then I should house a refugee family in my house or I'm being a hypocrite....

Of course, I wouldn't mind a roommate who would put in a good day's work for their room and board, so it turns out that being willing to house a refugee is completely beside the point. Sigh.

If dem's should be willing to house a refugee, repub's should be willing to house an unwanted baby.

Republicunts don't believe in unwanted babies.... they insist that the slut wanted it!

[Angrboda]

If I'm not alarmed that a caravan of refugees is walking towards us, I must want to let them in the country with  no vetting and I also must want them to spread diseases when they get here. And if I'm not against turning them all away, then I should house a refugee family in my house or I'm being a hypocrite....

Of course, I wouldn't mind a roommate who would put in a good day's work for their room and board, so it turns out that being willing to house a refugee is completely beside the point. Sigh.

The people in the caravan have been very public about what they want. They aren't being sneaky.

If they apply for asylum at the border, they are following the law. If they are rejected without review, the US is breaking the law.

If I'm not mistaken, they can apply for asylum once within the country, regardless of how they entered. A fact which inconveniences Trumptards to no end.

[earmuffs]

If dem's should be willing to house a refugee, repub's should be willing to house an unwanted baby.

Republicunts don't believe in unwanted babies.... they insist that the slut wanted it!

Nah, they just prioritize the rights of the baby (or fetus, whatever you wanna call it).  It's not that they don't believe in unwanted babies, it's that they don't care if they're wanted or not.
It's one of those situations where it hasn't happened to them but they went to bible school once so they have a phd on everyone else's individual pregnancy's and situations and so are thusly qualified to give their opinion and legislate based on it.

[vulcanlogician]

One interesting tactic i have seen the right use of late whenever they try the whole "the Democrats want or believe " Democrat as an absolutist and exclusive  position on whatever they are accusing you of for example 

" Democrats are violent and are intolerant"   

When you point out many are not and violence is not exclusive position of the Democrats and is just as at home among Republicans. You are met with accusation of red herring because apparently pointing out the absolutist and exclusiveness of the statement above  is false is somehow not a counter according to them and is just a distraction despite dealing with the claim directly  .

Another one i have encountered is what i like too call the sample size essentially they take a small group of radicals then conflate it to an official democrat position. 

" Democrats want open borders"

Once again an absolutist and  exclusive statement because many Democrats don't want open borders ( and no wanting paths to citizenship for illegal immigrants  and wanting to abolish ICE does not mean open borders) and some Republicans want open borders as well so this idea it's a general Democrat position is refuted .

Politics is distortion. By most estimations, I'm on the far left of the Democratic party. (If we had a viable Socialist Party or Green Party, I'd no longer vote Democrat, anyways). But I do not support an open border policy. Very few leftists do, actually.

The problem is the current administration and its "immigrant paranoia." They want to lock the borders up tight. They want to portray the migrant population as some kind of criminals. A great many leftists oppose the efforts this administration is taking to harass the migrant population in America.

But pointing THIS out isn't going to get anyone fearful of the American left. No. In order to do THAT you must create some bullshit narrative about how Democrats endorse an open border policy. Politics is distortion.

[Amarok]

One interesting tactic i have seen the right use of late whenever they try the whole "the Democrats want or believe " Democrat as an absolutist and exclusive  position on whatever they are accusing you of for example 

" Democrats are violent and are intolerant"   

When you point out many are not and violence is not exclusive position of the Democrats and is just as at home among Republicans. You are met with accusation of red herring because apparently pointing out the absolutist and exclusiveness of the statement above  is false is somehow not a counter according to them and is just a distraction despite dealing with the claim directly  .

Another one i have encountered is what i like too call the sample size essentially they take a small group of radicals then conflate it to an official democrat position. 

" Democrats want open borders"

Once again an absolutist and  exclusive statement because many Democrats don't want open borders ( and no wanting paths to citizenship for illegal immigrants  and wanting to abolish ICE does not mean open borders) and some Republicans want open borders as well so this idea it's a general Democrat position is refuted .

Politics is distortion. By most estimations, I'm on the far left of the Democratic party. (If we had a viable Socialist Party or Green Party, I'd no longer vote Democrat, anyways). But I do not support an open border policy. Very few leftists do, actually.

The problem is the current administration and its "immigrant paranoia." They want to lock the borders up tight. They want to portray the migrant population as some kind of criminals. A great many leftists oppose the efforts this administration is taking to harass the migrant population in America.

But pointing THIS out isn't going to get anyone fearful of the American left. No. In order to do THAT you must create some bullshit narrative about how Democrats endorse an open border policy. Politics is distortion.

Actually 35 percent of Democrats do support "basic open borders " but even that means the majority don't .Which gives pale to Trumps narrative that this is a universal Democrat position . 

And yes i totally agree that their isn't a party for socialists in the US the Dems are very corporate and embrace big money .

[vulcanlogician]

Actually 35 percent of Democrats do support "basic open borders "

Wow. I wasn't aware of that. But, keeping in mind the idea that politics is distortion, I wonder how much of that may be a reaction to Trump being president. That's just a guess though. Until I read your post, I had no idea that a third of Dems support open borders.

[Amarok]

Actually 35 percent of Democrats do support "basic open borders "

Wow. I wasn't aware of that. But, keeping in mind the idea that politics is distortion, I wonder how much of that may be a reaction to Trump being president. That's just a guess though. Until I read your post, I had no idea that a third of Dems support open borders.

It surprised me too. But i agree this may just be a reaction to Trumps heavy handed methods and rhetoric  i imagine the number would plummet with a more moderate president