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13 days to Deermageddon
#51
RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
(November 2, 2018 at 7:06 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Sigh there is a difference between raising animals for food and going out and killing a wild animal and one does not need to be a vegan to object to a specific form of acquiring meat . By this logic a cannibal could say to someone who objects to them eating people " do you know were you get your meat from ? "

What exactly is the difference between raising an animal for food and hunting a deer for food? If you buy meat from a grocery store you have zero business judging someone who hunts deer. Grocery store meat almost always comes from poorly treated animals in inhumane living situations.
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#52
RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
I hear they have a similar thing going on in South America... Llamageddon. Oh just shut up now Cod.
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#53
RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
(November 2, 2018 at 7:22 pm)Losty Wrote:
(November 2, 2018 at 7:06 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Sigh there is a difference between raising animals for food and going out and killing a wild animal and one does not need to be a vegan to object to a specific form of acquiring meat . By this logic a cannibal could say to someone who objects to them eating people " do you know were you get your meat from ? "

What exactly is the difference between raising an animal for food and hunting a deer for food? If you buy meat from a grocery store you have zero business judging someone who hunts deer. Grocery store meat almost always comes from poorly treated animals in inhumane living situations.
As i already explained they can judge someone the same way you can judge a cannibal . As for the idea of how animals are treated that's a condemnation of how animals are raised not the general concept of rearing animals for food. I also will note that animals suffer horrifically in the wild . Overall it comes down to the question of your ethics on the acquiring  of meat .
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#54
RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
(November 2, 2018 at 4:37 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Deers should have guns too. I recommend AK-47's. Reliable armament.

They could probably buy an AR-15 no problem here in #Murrica.
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#55
RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
(November 2, 2018 at 9:41 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(November 2, 2018 at 4:37 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Deers should have guns too. I recommend AK-47's. Reliable armament.

They could probably buy an AR-15 no problem here in #Murrica.

No difference for AK's, no problem, trust me.

(November 2, 2018 at 9:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As i already explained they can judge someone the same way you can judge a cannibal . As for the idea of how animals are treated that's a condemnation of how animals are raised not the general concept of rearing animals for food. I also will note that animals suffer horrifically in the wild . Overall it comes down to the question of your ethics on the acquiring  of meat .

I thought you were a hunter. 

Is it a matter of "needing" to hunt for food vs "wanting" to? Maybe you need to explain your ethics to me.
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#56
RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
(November 2, 2018 at 9:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(November 2, 2018 at 7:22 pm)Losty Wrote: What exactly is the difference between raising an animal for food and hunting a deer for food? If you buy meat from a grocery store you have zero business judging someone who hunts deer. Grocery store meat almost always comes from poorly treated animals in inhumane living situations.
As i already explained they can judge someone the same way you can judge a cannibal . As for the idea of how animals are treated that's a condemnation of how animals are raised not the general concept of rearing animals for food. I also will note that animals suffer horrifically in the wild . Overall it comes down to the question of your ethics on the acquiring  of meat .

You didn’t answer the question. You said there’s a difference between raising an animal for food verses killing a wild animal for food and implied that one is worse than the other. Please explain the difference then.
We judge cannibals, to be completely honest with ourselves, because we value human life over other animals. People can deny it but it’s true for the vast majority of us. Maybe I’m an immoral. Maybe I’m a terrible person...but I do value human life over other animals. I also value dogs over cows and horses over lambs. I don’t know really know what exactly causes these feelings. It just seems like the more easily you can have a relationship with something the more important they become. For me at least.
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#57
RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
(November 2, 2018 at 9:58 pm)wyzas Wrote:
(November 2, 2018 at 9:41 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: They could probably buy an AR-15 no problem here in #Murrica.

No difference for AK's, no problem, trust me.

(November 2, 2018 at 9:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As i already explained they can judge someone the same way you can judge a cannibal . As for the idea of how animals are treated that's a condemnation of how animals are raised not the general concept of rearing animals for food. I also will note that animals suffer horrifically in the wild . Overall it comes down to the question of your ethics on the acquiring  of meat .

I thought you were a hunter. 

Is it a matter of "needing" to hunt for food vs "wanting" to? Maybe you need to explain your ethics to me.
Yes  i grew up hunting and when i go north i still do . Note i'm not objecting to hunting just pointing out  it's a bad argument to compare domestic animal rearing to hunting .
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#58
RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
I don’t understand the desire to kill things.
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#59
RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
(November 2, 2018 at 10:24 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(November 2, 2018 at 9:58 pm)wyzas Wrote:

I thought you were a hunter. 

Is it a matter of "needing" to hunt for food vs "wanting" to? Maybe you need to explain your ethics to me.
Yes  i grew up hunting and when i go north i still do . Note i'm not objecting to hunting just pointing out  it's a bad argument to compare domestic animal rearing to hunting .

A better argument might be based on how skilled the hunter is. Domestic is almost always an instant death, hunting............ well, I sure you've seen the manglers.

(November 2, 2018 at 10:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don’t understand the desire to kill things.

I need to introduce you to my wife.

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RE: 13 days to Deermageddon
(November 2, 2018 at 9:34 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(November 2, 2018 at 7:22 pm)Losty Wrote: What exactly is the difference between raising an animal for food and hunting a deer for food? If you buy meat from a grocery store you have zero business judging someone who hunts deer. Grocery store meat almost always comes from poorly treated animals in inhumane living situations.
As i already explained they can judge someone the same way you can judge a cannibal . As for the idea of how animals are treated that's a condemnation of how animals are raised not the general concept of rearing animals for food. I also will note that animals suffer horrifically in the wild . Overall it comes down to the question of your ethics on the acquiring  of meat .

Your " ethics" are somewhat suspect.

You'e willing to eat an animal that was raised for your dinner table. An animal with no freedom and no choices. Odds are it didn't even get the chance to reproduce. You abdicated it' s demise to some unknown agent so you wouldn't even have to face it' s death or soil yourself with it' s blood.

I'd call that lazy, self serving and dishonest.

Perhaps you should become a vegetarian.
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