Exodus 21

[Astreja]

Again right now 50 million people depend on slavery to live. I'm asking you how to support them when you take their livelyhood from them!

How about figuring out a way to create a society that doesn't depend on slavery at all?

[Drich]

Right, that's you, Drich, opening eyes left and right to different ways of thinking.  Your delusions of self are just as amusing as your delusions regarding slavery, magic book, and cuntgod.

See i apologize for turning your little box over, there is no need to be upset because the world is bigger than you estimated in your box. again no need to be nasty.

[Astreja]

If anything, Drich, we aren't being nasty enough. You are advocating for the continuation of a system that has caused millions of people to suffer.

(Of course, you also follow a belief system that glorifies someone being tortured and killed for the misdeeds of other people, so it's not as if you can slip any lower on the morality scale...)

[Drich]

Again right now 50 million people depend on slavery to live. I'm asking you how to support them when you take their livelyhood from them!

How about figuring out a way to create a society that doesn't depend on slavery at all?

ok let's follow the logic..

let's say... Astreja-ism is that society. perfect in everyway. everyone is equal, no need for money, everything in balanced. don't know how, because every society that has ever been depends on a social pyramid structure with the wide base of poor on the bottom and the small/few elites on the top.. but lets say you figured all of that out and your form of marxism works. (everybody is equal more or less)

Right Now the world depends on a westernized consumer base. meaning most of the people in this part of the world makes so much more than they need they can buy thing not essential to basic life. which give people opportunity to be employed in other fields beyond those to farming and raw material processing and accumulation which puts alot of people to work who would otherwise have no job. like say 50 million around the world not just in your little community...

but here's the unintended evil. Now that you do not need slaves and everyone else the same these 50 million jobs all dry up.

Now... how are you logistically going to feed and provide basic care for those who just in a heart beat lost their jobs... not to mention the hundreds of millions of logistically supported or was dependant on those cheap goods???? (the people who do not live in your part of the world?)

[Minimalist]

Dripshit is under the insane impression that if you are poor you must be a slave.  How very republicunt of him.

That's how the Orange Shitgibbon thinks.

[Bucky Ball]

So God was right to support economic boom at the expanse of people? I mean, economic prosperity is holy, right?

how about economic survival. how about that is what ALL your nasty ancestors were if not slaves themselves were also doing without a thought to regulation or rights.

Remember whatever you have to say here you only condemn your hypocritical selves. even today nothing has changed only our vocabulary concerning those who work dependant on the company because they do not get paid a living wage. (which is 2/3 of the planet) who would otherwise starve without their slave wage jobs.

LOL. 
And despite all that, he still buys into the shit that a "just" deity (who could have intervened) sat in heaven and countenanced those conditions for eons, did nothing, and in fact he worships that deity. 

[Drich]

If anything, Drich, we aren't being nasty enough.  You are advocating for the continuation of a system that has caused millions of people to suffer.

(Of course, you also follow a belief system that glorifies someone being tortured and killed for the misdeeds of other people, so it's not as if you can slip any lower on the morality scale...)

no... I am pushing you head in the sand people the "we do not use slave made products" into first admitting there is modern slavery supporting your life then I am advocating regulation and or change to a 'fair trade situation.' To educate you moron to spend a little more money on things like coffee to support people who pay a fare price to support the people that make modern life possible.

why? because every job is not a 20 an hour job. coffee bean makers only need to make a livable wage. it is not rocket science. if it only take 3 dollars a month to have all the basics then that's all they need make.

what is wrong with you people to assume always if someone does not agree with your broken bullshit world view they must automatically advocate the worst of humanity?!?

You assholes outside of our conversation give two shits about modern slavery only inso far as to try and label me a bigot.

[The Grand Nudger]

Slaves don't make wages, nutbar.  They're property.  I don't pay my hammer, a slaver doesn't pay his slaves...he pays -for- them. Your god is a slaver and a friend to slavers and there is nothing you can do or say to excuse this. All you could possibly hope to establish is that your god is at least no worse than a slaver...which everyone you're talking to already knew...your god is exactly as bad as a slaver. I agree with your hilarious appeal to hypocrisy. He isn't worse for being a slaver on account of the fact that he's a slaving god as opposed to a slaving human..he's just the usual run of the mill dumb ass piece of shit slaver, lol. Thankfully, unlike human slavers, he doesn't exist.

Gratz on that shit, btw, I'm sure it was super difficult...... lol. You are a bigot, the label fits....but your being a bigot is only a complicating factor here...the real problem isn't that you're a bigot, but that you're wrong. OFC, being a bigot who is also wrong about a subject primed for their bigotry isn't exactly an enviable position to be in.

: shrugs :

[Astreja]

let's say... Astreja-ism is that society. perfect in everyway. everyone is equal, no need for money, everything in balanced.

Nope. Dead wrong. Society is never "perfect"; it's a work in progress. Clearly everyone is not equal. Money is a useful tool for "storing" labour, rather than bartering cod for coconuts.

I think what we need is a guaranteed minimum wage/housing/food/medicine stipend, so that no one has to work 18 hours a day in +35C heat and go to sleep hungry in a mosquito-infested shack made out of salvaged materials. Money can still reward work, but be used for "extras" rather than necessities.

[The Grand Nudger]

What better use of our institutions vast resources and ability to coordinate projects on an international scale than to insure that people do not die of thirst, hunger, or exposure..right?  

When you take a look at what our institutions -are- doing.....it seems like maybe some of that funding and manpower might be better directed towards the goal above, lol.  It's not as if we couldn't eradicate those three items..at will..anytime we had the will.  We know that we can, we know how, and we've known this for a long time.  

We just haven't. 

Just in case Some Dipshit™ is wondering..no..slavery isn't the answer.