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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 9, 2018 at 8:58 am
(November 9, 2018 at 8:52 am)no one Wrote: Brian37:
Evolution unfortunately produces violence, not only in our species, but lots of other life too. We live on an imperfect planet, but we also evolved with empathy and compassion, even though we don't always use it, we are capable of it.
Yes Brian, i understand that evolution produces violence. However, humans are violent just for the sake of violence. They are violent towards each other, just because they can be. I'd like to think that a truly evolved mind would beyond such mindless actions. This is why I say I hate humans. I like individual persons, but as a species, I can not stand them.
We are not saying anything different here. I do not like the dark side of our evolution in our ability to be cruel, we certainly can be. But like you I certainly can and do like individual human beings whom display the empathy and compassion our species is also capable of.
Evolution isn't a utopia unfortunately. It is still up to humans how we choose to interact.
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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 9, 2018 at 9:06 am
Brian37:
Evolution isn't a utopia unfortunately. It is still up to humans how we choose to interact.
Well said good sir. Regrettably, many of them act like complete asshats. Hence, my flourishing disgust with them.
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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 9, 2018 at 8:30 pm
I saw the footage on the news. Fair play to guy with the shopping trolly. Apparently the scumbag with with the knife was known to police but mainly in respect to some of his relatives, who are now persons of interest. If this is so, and there’s not enough evidence to arrest them, said relatives should be sent back to the land from whence they came.
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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 9, 2018 at 8:43 pm
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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 9, 2018 at 10:53 pm
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2018 at 11:13 pm by Rev. Rye.)
... Wait, how is one guy randomly stabbing some other guy a terrorist attack? Is there any ideology he's been spouting that would explain this, IRL or elsewhere?
*actually reads the damn article* So, he's apparently from Somalia and has a relative who's been convicted of Islamist terror-related charges. Are we sure this was meant to further some goal? Given that he grew up in Somalia when there was no government and it was in total anarchy (he's 30, and likely spent most of his childhood in the worst large-scale anarchy the world has seen), could he have been suffering some PTSD and flashed back to worse times?
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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 10, 2018 at 7:02 am
(November 9, 2018 at 10:53 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: ... Wait, how is one guy randomly stabbing some other guy a terrorist attack? Is there any ideology he's been spouting that would explain this, IRL or elsewhere?
*actually reads the damn article* So, he's apparently from Somalia and has a relative who's been convicted of Islamist terror-related charges. Are we sure this was meant to further some goal? Given that he grew up in Somalia when there was no government and it was in total anarchy (he's 30, and likely spent most of his childhood in the worst large-scale anarchy the world has seen), could he have been suffering some PTSD and flashed back to worse times?
The police are treating the attack as terror related. They believe he was radicalized. It wasn’t just a knife attack, there were gas cylinders in the back of the car which failed to explode.
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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 10, 2018 at 11:10 am
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2018 at 11:11 am by AFTT47.)
(November 9, 2018 at 7:05 am)Brian37 Wrote: (November 9, 2018 at 5:45 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: If this fucker was on my operating table he probably would have died, too.
Scum.
I understand the desire for revenge, but in the west doctors don't get to decide whom they save. We have courts for a reason. But yea, there certainly are times when you feel like beating the fuck out of someone.
There are plenty of Christian doctors in America, I certainly don't want them having that mindset if I end up in the operating room, we have plenty of fundies whom would want revenge on us, even without having committed a violent act.
One of my shortcomings is that I often fail to detect when a person is being funny or sarcastic and take what they say at face value. You have the same problem but ten-times worse.
Do you really think Valkrie would deliberately kill somebody on her operating table? She was just venting.
Right, Valkrie?
Right...?
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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 10, 2018 at 1:49 pm
Well, that makes a bit more sense. I can't say I think it's definitely a terrorist attack, but it does look a bit more likely.
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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 10, 2018 at 3:15 pm
(November 10, 2018 at 11:10 am)AFTT47 Wrote: (November 9, 2018 at 7:05 am)Brian37 Wrote: I understand the desire for revenge, but in the west doctors don't get to decide whom they save. We have courts for a reason. But yea, there certainly are times when you feel like beating the fuck out of someone.
There are plenty of Christian doctors in America, I certainly don't want them having that mindset if I end up in the operating room, we have plenty of fundies whom would want revenge on us, even without having committed a violent act.
One of my shortcomings is that I often fail to detect when a person is being funny or sarcastic and take what they say at face value. You have the same problem but ten-times worse.
Do you really think Valkrie would deliberately kill somebody on her operating table? She was just venting.
Right, Valkrie?
Right...?
Unfortunately (or possibly fortunately), I wouldn't kill, or allow to die, even scum like this. I made an oath and adhere to it.
It doesn't stop me thinking about it, however.
But if you do it once, where does it end?
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RE: Terror attack in Melbourne this arvo.
November 10, 2018 at 4:12 pm
I would have absolutely no problem watching vermin like this writhing in agony until they drew their final breath. As a matter of fact, I would revel in it. If this guy, or any fuckwit like this was on fire, I would not piss on them to put them out!
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