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Is atheism a belief?
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 15, 2019 at 3:20 am
(March 15, 2019 at 3:17 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: Well, you'd have to be more specific as to how it's different.  You likely don't believe that spinach flavored icecream is the best icecream either.

You believe in some god, well...fine I guess?  Other people don't.  In what way is that disconcerting?

Who is right, what is the truth?

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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 15, 2019 at 6:58 am
(March 15, 2019 at 2:45 am)Catharsis Wrote: What does worshipping a god means when gods don't exist?

It means someone is wasting their time.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 15, 2019 at 7:45 am
(March 15, 2019 at 6:58 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(March 15, 2019 at 2:45 am)Catharsis Wrote: What does worshipping a god means when gods don't exist?

It means someone is wasting their time.

True.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 15, 2019 at 10:36 am
(March 15, 2019 at 3:20 am)Catharsis Wrote: Who is right, what is the truth?

We don't want anyone deceived.

Dark night of the soul, I guess?  IDK exactly what's eating you, but it's usually not the case that the answer to the question of whether or not there is a god is relevant to the thing the faithful find worrisome, but some other thing they've attached to the god idea.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 15, 2019 at 4:19 pm (This post was last modified: March 15, 2019 at 4:21 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(March 15, 2019 at 2:32 am)Catharsis Wrote:
(March 15, 2019 at 2:21 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: A persons response to existential claims and value setting aren't the same thing, though we employ similar language in both cases.  If someone told you that they didn't believe in loyalty, for example..they're saying something like "loyalty is a suckers game" - likely not that they don't believe that loyalty exists.  Similarly, a person saying that they believe in loyalty is unlikely to be making an existential claim, whereas a person telling you that they believe in god is.

Academic, really, since atheists do "believe things" in the existential sense.  Tons of things.

I don't think to believe in God is like believing in loyalty.

To believe in God is likely to mean to worship God, and to worship God means to do his will, so it's all defined by the fruits a person carries that makes him believe in God or not.

Believing in God is not something you do in your head, like thinking for example. It's about being who you are.

Kinda like priests who believe in God, and rape little boys ?
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(March 15, 2019 at 2:45 am)Catharsis Wrote: What does worshipping a god means when gods don't exist

Maybe they can't get any other job.
I mean can you imagine Cardinal Pell actually working for a living ?
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 15, 2019 at 4:33 pm
(March 15, 2019 at 4:19 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:
(March 15, 2019 at 2:32 am)Catharsis Wrote: I don't think to believe in God is like believing in loyalty.

To believe in God is likely to mean to worship God, and to worship God means to do his will, so it's all defined by the fruits a person carries that makes him believe in God or not.

Believing in God is not something you do in your head, like thinking for example. It's about being who you are.

Kinda like priests who believe in God, and rape little boys ?
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(March 15, 2019 at 2:45 am)Catharsis Wrote: What does worshipping a god means when gods don't exist

Maybe they can't get any other job.
I mean can you imagine Cardinal Pell actually working for a living ?

Hehe
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 15, 2019 at 7:51 pm (This post was last modified: March 15, 2019 at 7:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Hey, newsflash..... you're a fuckin idiot. Good luck with that.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 15, 2019 at 10:33 pm
(March 15, 2019 at 7:51 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Hey, newsflash..... you're a fuckin idiot. Good luck with that.

Yeah, it's like Little Rikki but without the cute memes.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 16, 2019 at 2:19 am
(March 15, 2019 at 7:45 am)Catharsis Wrote: True.

As you can see, you don't have to say much around here for the Thought Police to go after you. Divergence from the accepted parameters of belief leads to automatic abuse.

The bullies here think it's good to bully people.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 16, 2019 at 2:30 am
(March 16, 2019 at 2:19 am)Belaqua Wrote:
(March 15, 2019 at 7:45 am)Catharsis Wrote: True.

As you can see, you don't have to say much around here for the Thought Police to go after you. Divergence from the accepted parameters of belief leads to automatic abuse.

The bullies here think it's good to bully people.


Still equivocating that word, I see.
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