Is atheism a belief?

[Acrobat]

In the survey, those who answered that they do not believe in God were asked a follow-up question, whether they believed in “some other higher power or spiritual force in the universe.”

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Not the same thing, dumbass.

Yea, and Christianity isn’t a religion, it’s a relationship. Just because some people don’t like the term God, because of the baggage often associated with it, doesn’t mean the thing they refer to by another name isn’t God.

God, higher power, universal life force, universal spirit, supreme being, the One, etc. are indistinguishable, even if they’re not the judeo-Christian God.

It’s like those people in the survey who don’t like the word theist, so they call themselves atheist, who believe in God. By your logic, this would mean atheism doesn’t mean a lack of belief in god.

[Agnostico]

Still with the hostile attitude... LoL...

Why would any thinking fucking person agree to the absurd thing that you just said?

Even more absurd is that u can't explain why. U call my theories absurd but  have no counter theory... Thats just ultimate stupidity mate sorry to say.

This sums up ur inability to a have a discussion about this for reasons unknown. Ur inability to agree on any thought is a reflection of ur motive.
Perhaps u still are suspicious of my motives, maybe ur really are as dogmatic as my first analysis said. I dunno.

A guy on utube was defining atheism as a disbelief in Gods, angels, saints, ghosts, spirits, deamons and some other stuff... LoL.
U should have a few serious words with him Bolga

I made 3 or 4 statements.
If u disagree that 200,000 years ago the first Homo Sapiens were atheist then at least give ur reasoning behind it.
Or if u think humans are born innately religious as opposed to what I said, give me ur logic.
And if u don't agree that religion was spawned from atheism then why not offer a counter argument?
Without ur own theories and counter arguments ur position is very weak, shallow and somewhat unknown.

Ur affraid of one of my theories aren't bolga?
The thought that human civilization was impossible with out these religions hurts doesn't it?
It hurst more than the realization that a God most probably doesn't exist, which u clearly have not over come yet at such a young age.
It is backed by many people in here and great thinkers in the world. Maybe one day Bolga

My questions are usually "WHY"?
Why were religions/doctrines/philosiphies created in the wake of atheist man?
Why is western atheism now being created in the wake of theist man?

I won't get answers here

[downbeatplumb]

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Not the same thing, dumbass.

Yea, and Christianity isn’t a religion, it’s a relationship. Just because some people don’t like the term God, because of the baggage often associated with it, doesn’t mean the thing they refer to by another name isn’t God.

God, higher power, universal life force, universal spirit, supreme being, the One, etc. are indistinguishable,  even if they’re not the judeo-Christian God.

It’s like those people in the survey who don’t like the word theist, so they call themselves atheist, who believe in God. By your logic, this would mean atheism doesn’t mean a lack of belief in god.

I think your issue is with the definition of god.

By the way I also count the hindus and Ra believers as theists the judeo Christian god is only one of several thousand. To be an atheist you have to not believe in any of them.

[Acrobat]

Yea, and Christianity isn’t a religion, it’s a relationship. Just because some people don’t like the term God, because of the baggage often associated with it, doesn’t mean the thing they refer to by another name isn’t God.

God, higher power, universal life force, universal spirit, supreme being, the One, etc. are indistinguishable,  even if they’re not the judeo-Christian God.

It’s like those people in the survey who don’t like the word theist, so they call themselves atheist, who believe in God. By your logic, this would mean atheism doesn’t mean a lack of belief in god.

I think your issue is with the definition of god.

By the way I also count the hindus and Ra believers as theists the judeo Christian god is only one of several thousand. To be an atheist you have to not believe in any of them.

According to the previous poster you can be an atheist and believe in Ra, just don’t call Ra a god and that’s all you need.

Just like you can be an atheist and believe in a higher power, or a universal life source, merely by not calling these things god/s.

[The Grand Nudger]

Still with the hostile attitude... LoL...

Why would any thinking fucking person agree to the absurd thing that you just said?

Even more absurd is that u can't explain why. U call my theories absurd but  have no counter theory... Thats just ultimate stupidity mate sorry to say.

If you say that the moon is made of cheese I don't need a counter theory that the moon is made of cigarette butts in order to tell you that your cheese idea is ridiculous.  

This sums up ur inability to a have a discussion about this for reasons unknown. Ur inability to agree on any thought is a reflection of ur motive.

Yeah..sure, that's me..well known for being incapable of having a discussion, lol.  Dude, stop..you say stupid shit and then get upset when someone says "hey, buddy, that was some stupid shit".   Why not try to stop saying stupid shit?  Maybe do some basic research about a topic before you comment?  I know you have the internet.  

Perhaps u still are suspicious of my motives, maybe ur really are as dogmatic as my first analysis said. I dunno.

Doesn't really matter what your motivation is.  Stupid shit is stupid shit regardless of what motivates you to say it.

A guy on utube was defining atheism as a disbelief in Gods, angels, saints, ghosts, spirits, deamons and some other stuff... LoL.
U should have a few serious words with him Bolga

There;s your trouble, you're looking to the authority of youtube to inform your positions.  

I made 3 or 4 statements.
If u disagree that 200,000 years ago the first Homo Sapiens were atheist then at least give ur reasoning behind it.

We have no idea if they were, or if the category even makes sense in application.  We know that they didn;t believe in any of the gods that people believe in today.  We know that by 50k years ago they had begun to form religious ideations...beyond that, we just don't know and probably never will.  We'd need a time machine, lol.

Or if u think humans are born innately religious as opposed to what I said, give me ur logic.
And if u don't agree that religion was spawned from atheism then why not offer a counter argument?

I think that humans may be born innately projecting an anthropormphized sense of consciousness and being out into the non human world.  I think this because experiments seem to back up that contention.  Personally, If I'm turning a wrench and I slip, and it bites me, I cuss it out.  I do the same thing that god botherers do, I just don't believe in gods.  

Without ur own theories and counter arguments ur position is very weak, shallow and somewhat unknown.

You honestly wouldn;t have the first clue what a strong or weak position looked like, so ...?

Ur affraid of one of my theories aren't bolga?
The thought that human civilization was impossible with out these religions hurts doesn't it?

Yeah.....sure, I'm terrified.  I've been shaking in my boots since the first time you told me that chads big dick energy and stacys hyper vagina caused civilization.

It hurst more than the realization that a God most probably doesn't exist, which u clearly have not over come yet at such a young age.
It is backed by many people in here and great thinkers in the world. Maybe one day Bolga

........?  I can understand your confusion here.  Most atheists come from religious backgrounds.  I'm not one of them.  Your idea of "great thinkers" is youtube and a bunch of incels...we have different opinions on what constitutes a "great thinker" is all.  

My questions are usually "WHY"?
Why were religions/doctrines/philosiphies created in the wake of atheist man?
Why is western atheism now being created in the wake of theist man?

I won't get answers here

Maybe your questions are malformed?

1 - Rephrase?
2- It isn't..as I've already explained to you, atheism has been on record in the west since 500bce. It was already well eveloped by the time anyone deigned to write it down..so we have no idea how long there were atheists in the world, lol..but have every reason to suspect that it's been at least as long as there have been fully modern humans. There have always been people...who didn't believe other peoples stories. They may not have possessed a good reason not to believe the stories, even. It could have simply been that Ogg didn't like Ugg and generally thought of anything that Ugg said as likely bullshit - because..you see, for as long as there have been people, and people who didn't believe other peoples stories..there have been bullshitters.

If you want to understand the period between 200kya and full modernity you're going to need to dive into archaelogy and anthropology, not post crackpot shit on af.com and then bitch when it get's called crackpot shit. You can understand that, right?

Similarly, if you want to be taken as anything other than a feckless troll, then you should probably stop pretending as though you haven't received those answers you asked, from people more informed on a subject than yourself, or that people are just being sooo mean to you for no explicable reason. You've put in the work, no sense in bitching about people taking you exactly as you;ve presented yourself.

[downbeatplumb]

I think your issue is with the definition of god.

By the way I also count the hindus and Ra believers as theists the judeo Christian god is only one of several thousand. To be an atheist you have to not believe in any of them.

According to the previous poster you can be an atheist and believe in Ra, just don’t call Ra a god and that’s all you need.

Just like you can be an atheist and believe in a higher power, or a universal life source, merely by not calling these things god/s.

I didn't see that. I thought that Ra was a sun god making a believer in Ra a theist. 

You believe in a god, you are a theist.

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Ok this is wikipedias definition of atheism.

Atheism

Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism


So if you don't believe in some form of deity you are an atheist.

That's it.


I think some people don't like to think of themselves as atheists even though they are. I guess those people would be americans where it is apparently ok to be oppress atheists.

[Bucky Ball]

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Not the same thing, dumbass.

Yea, and Christianity isn’t a religion, it’s a relationship. Just because some people don’t like the term God, because of the baggage often associated with it, doesn’t mean the thing they refer to by another name isn’t God.

God, higher power, universal life force, universal spirit, supreme being, the One, etc. are indistinguishable,  even if they’re not the judeo-Christian God.

It’s like those people in the survey who don’t like the word theist, so they call themselves atheist, who believe in God. By your logic, this would mean atheism doesn’t mean a lack of belief in god.

Nope. 
They might be to you. 
You don't get to impose YOUR opinions on others and make claims with no evidence. You have polling data ?

[Agnostico]

Still with the hostile attitude... LoL...

Even more absurd is that u can't explain why. U call my theories absurd but  have no counter theory... Thats just ultimate stupidity mate sorry to say.

If you say that the moon is made of cheese I don't need a counter theory that the moon is made of cigarette butts in order to tell you that your cheese idea is ridiculous.  

This sums up ur inability to a have a discussion about this for reasons unknown. Ur inability to agree on any thought is a reflection of ur motive.

Yeah..sure, that's me..well known for being incapable of having a discussion, lol.  Dude, stop..you say stupid shit and then get upset when someone says "hey, buddy, that was some stupid shit".   Why not try to stop saying stupid shit?  Maybe do some basic research about a topic before you comment?  I know you have the internet.  

Perhaps u still are suspicious of my motives, maybe ur really are as dogmatic as my first analysis said. I dunno.

Doesn't really matter what your motivation is.  Stupid shit is stupid shit regardless of what motivates you to say it.

A guy on utube was defining atheism as a disbelief in Gods, angels, saints, ghosts, spirits, deamons and some other stuff... LoL.
U should have a few serious words with him Bolga

There;s your trouble, you're looking to the authority of youtube to inform your positions.  

I made 3 or 4 statements.
If u disagree that 200,000 years ago the first Homo Sapiens were atheist then at least give ur reasoning behind it.

We have no idea if they were, or if the category even makes sense in application.  We know that they didn;t believe in any of the gods that people believe in today.  We know that by 50k years ago they had begun to form religious ideations...beyond that, we just don't know and probably never will.  We'd need a time machine, lol.

Or if u think humans are born innately religious as opposed to what I said, give me ur logic.
And if u don't agree that religion was spawned from atheism then why not offer a counter argument?

I think that humans may be born innately projecting an anthropormphized sense of consciousness and being out into the non human world.  I think this because experiments seem to back up that contention.  Personally, If I'm turning a wrench and I slip, and it bites me, I cuss it out.  I do the same thing that god botherers do, I just don't believe in gods.  

Without ur own theories and counter arguments ur position is very weak, shallow and somewhat unknown.

You honestly wouldn;t have the first clue what a strong or weak position looked like, so ...?

Ur affraid of one of my theories aren't bolga?
The thought that human civilization was impossible with out these religions hurts doesn't it?

Yeah.....sure, I'm terrified.  I've been shaking in my boots since the first time you told me that chads big dick energy and stacys hyper vagina caused civilization.

It hurst more than the realization that a God most probably doesn't exist, which u clearly have not over come yet at such a young age.
It is backed by many people in here and great thinkers in the world. Maybe one day Bolga

........?  I can understand your confusion here.  Most atheists come from religious backgrounds.  I'm not one of them.  Your idea of "great thinkers" is youtube and a bunch of incels...we have different opinions on what constitutes a "great thinker" is all.  

My questions are usually "WHY"?
Why were religions/doctrines/philosiphies created in the wake of atheist man?
Why is western atheism now being created in the wake of theist man?

I won't get answers here

Maybe your questions are malformed?

1 - Rephrase?
2- It isn't..as I've already explained to you, atheism has been on record in the west since 500bce. It was already well eveloped by the time anyone deigned to write it down..so we have no idea how long there were atheists in the world, lol..but have every reason to suspect that it's been at least as long as there have been fully modern humans. There have always been people...who didn't believe other peoples stories. They may not have possessed a good reason not to believe the stories, even. It could have simply been that Ogg didn't like Ugg and generally thought of anything that Ugg said as likely bullshit - because..you see, for as long as there have been people, and people who didn't believe other peoples stories..there have been bullshitters.

If you want to understand the period between 200kya and full modernity you're going to need to dive into archaelogy and anthropology, not post crackpot shit on af.com and then bitch when it get's called crackpot shit. You can understand that, right?

Similarly, if you want to be taken as anything other than a feckless troll, then you should probably stop pretending as though you haven't received those answers you asked, from people more informed on a subject than yourself, or that people are just being sooo mean to you for no explicable reason. You've put in the work, no sense in bitching about people taking you exactly as you;ve presented yourself.

U agree with a particular statement only to call it stupid in another post.
Hamsterlogic 3.0

[The Grand Nudger]

Which would be......?

[Bucky Ball]

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Not the same thing, dumbass.

Yea, and Christianity isn’t a religion, it’s a relationship.

There is nothing in the creeds of Christianity that states "it's a relationship".