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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 6, 2019 at 9:26 pm
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(March 6, 2019 at 8:45 pm)Shell B Wrote: This doesn't matter. Even if not believing something is a belief (which sounds absurd, but whatevs), it doesn't change anything. It's not a "gotcha." It doesn't mean god is real or that atheists have a dogma all their own. It doesn't make it less valid. Religious belief is most often absolutely absurd, but there are plenty of beliefs that aren't, so quit trying to lump atheism in there just to take a crack at atheists.
I can't see how atheism could possibly, in any sense of the word, be called a religion, whether it be the soft or hard variety, or whatever you think about monaxial vs. biaxial diagrams.
You might check "atheist" if someone was dumb enough to still have a checklist for religious affiliations on an application or something, but other than that. . . just no.
(March 6, 2019 at 8:51 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: The irony of watching someone from canadia hedge their bets as a neck from the southern american swamp is something that anyone can appreciate. Mind, I'm not commenting on the validity of it, only the spectacle.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 6, 2019 at 10:48 pm
Ever tell you the exchange? On my old farm, a certain canadian kept calling toe-may-toes... to-mah-tos...so I kept calling Canada canadia. Finally, after much prodding, she says "It's can-a-da" - to which I replied, "It's toe-may-toe.".
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 6, 2019 at 11:09 pm
(March 6, 2019 at 10:48 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Ever tell you the exchange? On my old farm, a certain canadian kept calling toe-may-toes... to-mah-tos...so I kept calling Canada canadia. Finally, after much prodding, she says "It's can-a-da" - to which I replied, "It's toe-may-toe.".
To mah toes, you grotty foreigner!!
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 6, 2019 at 11:13 pm
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(March 6, 2019 at 10:48 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Ever tell you the exchange? On my old farm, a certain canadian kept calling toe-may-toes... to-mah-tos...so I kept calling Canada canadia. Finally, after much prodding, she says "It's can-a-da" - to which I replied, "It's toe-may-toe.".
Hmmmmm. . . I'm trying to think if my grandfather called them that. Maybe?
I don't think I've heard any Canadians say to-mah-toes. Some do say "aboot" though, that's real.
(March 6, 2019 at 11:09 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: (March 6, 2019 at 10:48 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Ever tell you the exchange? On my old farm, a certain canadian kept calling toe-may-toes... to-mah-tos...so I kept calling Canada canadia. Finally, after much prodding, she says "It's can-a-da" - to which I replied, "It's toe-may-toe.".
To mah toes, you grotty foreigner!!
Oh no you di'n't!
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 6, 2019 at 11:15 pm
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Maybe , in The Shire. This is Mordor.
a-Benny
It's a NE coastal thing, shared by people in murrica and canadia. To me..that's just two words for "weirdo".
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 7, 2019 at 12:03 am
I wasn't calling atheism a religion, so maybe I wasn't clear?
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 7, 2019 at 6:53 am
(March 7, 2019 at 12:03 am)Shell B Wrote: I wasn't calling atheism a religion, so maybe I wasn't clear?
Oh, I'm sorry. I read that last post as something like "People are putting atheism in with religious traditions, and subjecting it to the BOP, straw manning dogma that we don't actual hold, and so on."
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 7, 2019 at 1:22 pm
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Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 7, 2019 at 1:50 pm
(March 7, 2019 at 6:53 am)bennyboy Wrote: (March 7, 2019 at 12:03 am)Shell B Wrote: I wasn't calling atheism a religion, so maybe I wasn't clear?
Oh, I'm sorry. I read that last post as something like "People are putting atheism in with religious traditions, and subjecting it to the BOP, straw manning dogma that we don't actual hold, and so on."
Something like that, but not that atheism is a religion. More like they're trying to say it's a religion so they can have some sort of "gotcha" moment. I really don't know why.
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RE: Is atheism a belief?
March 7, 2019 at 2:02 pm
It's a scorched earth policy of apologia....and because of it's long prominence and constant hard sell..even non-apologists pick it up and repeat it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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