Angry Atheists and Anti-Theists

[Simon Moon]

U started of reasonable but then u just ended up like the rest. Trying to put a belief label next to my agnostic position.
All after everyone said they didn't want labels  
I don't care about beliefs. They mean nothing to me. Their just based on feelings. Thats all it is. FEELINGS.

Nope, still wrong.

A belief is nothing more that accepting a premise or proposition as being true, or likely true.

One can accept a premise or proposition as being true for bad reasons (based on feelings, fallacious thinking), or one can accept a premise or proposition as being true for good reasons (demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument, valid and sound logic).

The biggest question is in regard to knowledge
"Do i know there aren't any type of Gods? Including extraterrestrial and some far-out thing?"

Many of us atheists here do not claim to know, with absolute certainty, that gods don't exist.

Belief is nothing. Its the fairytale u read to ur kids before bed. Its the fiction section of the library where girls are reading romance novels.

Nope, still wrong.

I am going to continue to post this to you until you get it, or put me on ignore. A belief is nothing more that accepting a premise as being true.

Im tempted to say if u must put labels on me then call me agnostic theist. Cos yall pushing me away by trying to force beliefs onto me.

That is a legitimate label to hold. That would mean you do not claim to know if gods exist or not, but you believe they do.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Seriously?!
Not sure how you've remained ignorant of the the facts, but theism has causes, and continues to cause, many real world negative consequences.

the facts... atheism have caused, and continues to cause many real world negative consequences
politics have caused, and continues to cause many real world negative consequences
societal norms have caused, and continues to cause many real world negative consequences

hrmm.. well the only thing relating them all is people and people will do crappy things and blame whatever is convenient.

Some one will probability beat me to the post but pleas, provide a link to these "Atheism have caused, and continues to cause realworld negative consequences." ?

Having almost finished the final chapter of my "Yuri Geller's 'How too'!" phsycic hand book I'm feeling vibrations to indicate 'Communism' or some such ilk.

[LadyForCamus]

[Jackie]

[Bucky Ball]

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Take things with a grain of salt. Internet atheism and theism isn't typical as to what is actually out there in most cases. Usually you can't tell the difference with people. If I go to the grocery store I don't try to figure out everybody's religion, and it rarely comes up in conversations. If someone proposes some wacky claim or something doesn't sound right, it makes since just to go and do some research. If it's right, you learned something. If it still sounds fishy, throw it back because it didn't hold enough weight.

[Jackie]

Take things with a grain of salt.  Internet atheism and theism isn't typical as to what is actually out there in most cases.  Usually you can't tell the difference with people.  If I go to the grocery store I don't try to figure out everybody's religion, and it rarely comes up in conversations.  If someone proposes some wacky claim or something doesn't sound right, it makes since just to go and do some research.  If it's right, you learned something.  If it still sounds fishy, throw it back because it didn't hold enough weight.

Not the point. Between the ability for a majority, in any given society to be open in in public, for that majority, in person, it is far easier for that majority, than another minority living under that majority to be open in person.

It is going to be easier for  a Sunni to be open in public in Saudi Arabia than say a Sunni living as a minority in Shiite Iran. It is going to be easier for a Jew to be open in Israel than a Muslim living in Israel. It is far easier in America face to face, for a Baptist or Catholic or Mormon, or Protestant to be open in public than it is for a Muslim or atheist or gay person. 

Of course if you don't bring things up in public there is less likely to be conflict, but that does not mean that there are not presumed social pecking orders in any given society.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

[Bucky Ball]

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The comment is true, but to say it makes his statement false isn't accurate, because how are brain processes something can depend on how we feel about it and our chosen response.  In other words, you're trying to disqualify one part of the process that can affect other parts of it.  Two people can experience the same stimuli, have different feelings about it, and their brain may process it completely differently.  Example: One person can like what the president said and feel confident or another person can disagree and feel distress, or even feel like it's an attempt at betrayal.  Maybe it's something to do with taxes and one person is getting the short end of the stick.  Well you might see anger.  Maybe they're saving money.  They might feel happy and relieved.  What applies to one person doesn't necessarily apply to others.  I'm guessing Agnostico probably is more left-brained in his approach to life.  I couldn't say the same about myself, as I favor the right hemisphere.  It doesn't mean you don't use both, but the capacity we use both is different.

Actually the point flew right over your head. Science knows how brains process. OF COURSE they "feel" differently. Those feelings are processed in known parts of the brain.
A process being the same (OBVIOULSY with different inputs) OBVIOULSY will produce different outcomes. Other than being Mr. Obvious, you comment is ignorant and quite useless.
Beliefs and emotion are NOT processed in the same parts of the brain.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

[quote pid='1867406' dateline='1544637472']
The comment is true, but to say it makes his statement false isn't accurate, because how are brain processes something can depend on how we feel about it and our chosen response.  In other words, you're trying to disqualify one part of the process that can affect other parts of it.  Two people can experience the same stimuli, have different feelings about it, and their brain may process it completely differently.  Example: One person can like what the president said and feel confident or another person can disagree and feel distress, or even feel like it's an attempt at betrayal.  Maybe it's something to do with taxes and one person is getting the short end of the stick.  Well you might see anger.  Maybe they're saving money.  They might feel happy and relieved.  What applies to one person doesn't necessarily apply to others.  I'm guessing Agnostico probably is more left-brained in his approach to life.  I couldn't say the same about myself, as I favor the right hemisphere.  It doesn't mean you don't use both, but the capacity we use both is different.

Actually the point flew right over your head. Science knows how brains process. OF COURSE they "feel" differently. Those feelings are processed in known parts of the brain.
A process being the same (OBVIOULSY with different inputs) OBVIOULSY will produce different outcomes. Other than being Mr. Obvious, you comment is ignorant and quite useless.
Beliefs and emotion are NOT processed in the same parts of the brain.

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And you are full of something...
The same stimuli aren't necessarily going to cause the same reaction is different people.  Like your nonsense is the equivalent of piece of chalk falling to the floor, but in your mind you're probably dancing around like you said something important.  I'm feeling *yawn* a sense of disappointment in how you are trying to fluff your argument while you are probably having a dance party in your brain, feeling like you told me something that held weight as an objection.  The point wasn't that we "don't know" where the brain processes things, because we do, but that it didn't invalidate his point.  So your conclusion led to B, which was correct, but not C.