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Animal Experts.......
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(December 26, 2018 at 6:07 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(December 26, 2018 at 6:04 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: We have a big cat rescue right outside the town where I live.  Right now there are 75 residents.  It’s a pretty cool place.

The warning they give is if a cat backs up to the fence move to the side so you don’t get peed on.

I suppose worse things could happen.

Little fear of animals in me.  Being raised by a large animal vet may have made it so I learned early not to be scared but to show respect and be alert.
Volunteered at Big Cats of Indiana when I was going to Purdue. They allowed me to touch a tiger my last day there.

My dad was the one that airlifted that girl who got mauled by a tiger at the Exotic Feline Rescue Center. She was more upset for the tiger than herself, according to my dad--she really didn't want anything to happen to it! So glad she healed up and got to go back.

I've been there a few times, once just to draw. I wish I could volunteer but it's too far. But man is it great to see these oversized house cats up close (and yes, if scaled up, your pet cat would probably actually kill you too).
Formerly Loom from TTA (rip)

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#22
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If you give a tiger frosted flakes, you have a friend for life.
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#23
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(December 26, 2018 at 9:14 pm)Nakara Wrote:
(December 26, 2018 at 6:07 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Volunteered at Big Cats of Indiana when I was going to Purdue. They allowed me to touch a tiger my last day there.

My dad was the one that airlifted that girl who got mauled by a tiger at the Exotic Feline Rescue Center. She was more upset for the tiger than herself, according to my dad--she really didn't want anything to happen to it! So glad she healed up and got to go back.

I've been there a few times, once just to draw. I wish I could volunteer but it's too far. But man is it great to see these oversized house cats up close (and yes, if scaled up, your pet cat would probably actually kill you too).

Good to hear about the young lady's recovery.

And, yes, we have one cat we call "TT", for "Tiny Tiger". Dodgy
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#24
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(December 27, 2018 at 6:11 am)no one Wrote: If you give a tiger frosted flakes, you have a friend for life.

There was a show on Animal Planet called "Fatal Attractions". They were recounting enactments based on real police/emt/hospital reports.

One lady running a tiger rescue, slowly over time could not raise enough money so she had to cut down on the feeding. One day she went in, and what do you know, the tiger was upset and hungry.  She was found later basically shredded like paper. 

So yea, feed a tiger frosted flakes, sure, but you better never fail.
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#25
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I saw footage of several elephants storming a restaurant to get at the salad bar because they hadn't been fed properly by the circus owner. They basically charged through the front windows. The circus people couldn't get them under control and the cops had to put them down. Horrifying to watch.
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#26
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(December 27, 2018 at 10:01 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I saw footage of several elephants storming a restaurant to get at the salad bar because they hadn't been fed properly by the circus owner. They basically charged through the front windows. The circus people couldn't get them under control and the cops had to put them down. Horrifying to watch.

Back in the early 90s I think, one elephant made national news. The circus was using it for rides. Well, like any kid, you can abuse it growing up, but once it gets pissed off enough. This one did. It was tired of all the abuse, ran off trying to shake the people off it's back, started smashing cars. Assholes ended up shooting it. 

It is never the animal's fault. If one is going to care for big animals, even giraffes, cute does not equal safe 100% of the time. They will react to starving and or sudden disruption, and hitting and pushing like any kid being abused.
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#27
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(December 26, 2018 at 3:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(December 26, 2018 at 3:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Would it help to think of tigers as just somewhat oversized housecats who are basically very friendly and may incidentally remove your internal organs?

Boru

Ha ha ha..... Yea, I am sure Roy would say the same and not blame the cat too. And from what I understand he didn't, but a lot of good that did Roy. 

Like I said, noooooooo thank you.

In all seriousness, I am sure if they are raised from birth, they'd be less likely to get aggressive. Problem is, just like most life, if you run out of resources to feed it, it is big enough and strong enough to unintentionally or intentionally rip you to shreds. 

Shit, even with horses. I've ridden once, looked down thinking damn if I fall off I could really fucking break something. But even with their hard skulls, I think what if they lean into me and unintentionally but my head.

I'll stick to my house cat thank you.

I won't go so far as to say Roy had it coming but Manticore (the tiger that injured him) is a white tiger. Those creatures are abominations of nature. In order to get that coloration, massive in-breeding is required. The last figure I heard was that only one in five survive to reach adulthood. Manticore is probably the tiger equivalent of George W Bush - a complete dumb-ass. A normal tiger would instinctively know that trying to carry an adult man by the scruff of his neck won't work out as well as carrying a tiger cub that way.
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#28
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(December 27, 2018 at 9:25 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:
(December 26, 2018 at 3:25 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Ha ha ha..... Yea, I am sure Roy would say the same and not blame the cat too. And from what I understand he didn't, but a lot of good that did Roy. 

Like I said, noooooooo thank you.

In all seriousness, I am sure if they are raised from birth, they'd be less likely to get aggressive. Problem is, just like most life, if you run out of resources to feed it, it is big enough and strong enough to unintentionally or intentionally rip you to shreds. 

Shit, even with horses. I've ridden once, looked down thinking damn if I fall off I could really fucking break something. But even with their hard skulls, I think what if they lean into me and unintentionally but my head.

I'll stick to my house cat thank you.

I won't go so far as to say Roy had it coming but Manticore (the tiger that injured him) is a white tiger. Those creatures are abominations of nature. In order to get that coloration, massive in-breeding is required. The last figure I heard was that only one in five survive to reach adulthood. Manticore is probably the tiger equivalent of George W Bush - a complete dumb-ass. A normal tiger would instinctively know that trying to carry an adult man by the scruff of his neck won't work out as well as carrying a tiger cub that way.

Inbreeding or not. With Roy, as stupid as he was putting dangerous animals in in act, I would bet, as kind as he was to the tigers, it still amounts to the fact they are big, and powerful. Even he didn't blame the tiger for what it did. 

I can tell you even with riding a horse once. I am sure the tiger was simply thinking "Oh shit, my friend fell down, let me help him up". 

In my case in my early teens, I thought it would be fun to ride a horse for the first time, visiting my aunt on a mountain just outside and slightly south of San Francisco.  Just like that tiger instinctively tried to pick up Roy by the scruff of his neck and unintentionally injured him, with the horse I attempted to ride, the more I tried to push it to do what I wanted, the more I felt that it knew I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. It was trained to walk people around a set path in a circle back to the ranch. I got board with it simply lumbering waking, so I kept kicking it in the side. It ninny'd each time, until the last time, when it was finally saying, "Ok asshole, you wanted fast, you got it" .......... As soon as it bolted I realized I was wrong......... Fortunately for me, it seemed that it understood I only needed a few hundred feet to realize what a dipshit I was being. It slowed down, and for the rest of the trip, it ignored me.
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#29
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The ex and I took a trip over to Jasper (small town in Alberta, Canada) during berry season when the bears come around more closely to eat the berries.

I think perhaps in hindsight, she might have been trying to kill me. We took walks through the woods, bear spray in hand, making as much noise as we could, so we wouldn't startle any bears.

We never saw any bears but we did hear about a lady who had been missing for a week. More than likely, she startled a bear.
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
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#30
RE: Animal Experts.......
(December 27, 2018 at 9:25 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I won't go so far as to say Roy had it coming but Manticore (the tiger that injured him) is a white tiger. Those creatures are abominations of nature. In order to get that coloration, massive in-breeding is required. The last figure I heard was that only one in five survive to reach adulthood. Manticore is probably the tiger equivalent of George W Bush - a complete dumb-ass. A normal tiger would instinctively know that trying to carry an adult man by the scruff of his neck won't work out as well as carrying a tiger cub that way.

IIRC the white tigers came from a single mutant born in a Raja's collection.
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